"You want to put my camcorder inside the box that's so dangerous we can't look into it. " -Primer

What'd they film that with a shoulder-mounted camcorder from 1998?

Pretty good and I don't want to hear about it not being a real player because that deflates my joy a little.

They are not illegal. Its just illegal to publish videos about specific people (in this one the perpetrator) to the public without making faces and other means of identification unrecognizable. No matter if recorded with a dashcam, or a simple camcorder or whatever. Courts are seen as the public, because its not private use anymore.

Some courts have ruled footage of them cannot be used as evidence, but those courts are just regional ones and other may rule differently.
Another ruling from the same regional court that forbid to use dashcam footage in a case, allowed it in another because the guy claimed he only turned it on after he suspected an accident would happen (which it did).
So basically you can just cut that footage to just show the accident and say you turned it on right before that and it will be used. Its stupid laws, but you can find a way around them.

Intro (Sage Francis):
Right about now, the SFR court is in full effect!
Judge Sage presiding in the case of the People vs. The Police Department.
Prosecuting attorneys are: Toki Wright, Jasiri X and B motherfuckin’ Dolan.
Order! Order! Order! B. Dolan, take the motherfuckin’ stand.
Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
(Dolan: You goddamn right.)
Then why don’t you tell everyone what the fuck they have the right to do?

Verse 1 
(B. Dolan):
Film the Police. Run a tape for the underclass!
Get the face, name and number on the badge.
They flash, we flash back when they act disorderly.
React accordingly and capture all that we see…
Nightstick, Zip-ties, and Tasers.
Think they’re licensed for type vicious behavior.
Make a tight fist with a video trained toward the Pigs,
Like this. They trip & you make ‘em famous.
Explain to a Judge the bounds you oversteppin’.
2011 time to the change our method.
We aim lenses at the State’s weapon,
‘Til they remember whose goddamn streets they’re protecting.
They’d rather see me in a cell
Than me and my cell with a different story to tell.
Camcorder by the dash. Next time you get stopped,
Reach for the celly if you wanna shoot a cop.
On a public sidewalk, you can tape what you see,
Or film from your window with a view of the street!
Neighborhood Crime Watch, we police the Police.
They can’t arrest the whole community.
Because the streets clock. These cops occupying blocks,
Harassing the homeless with batons, pulling glocks.
They stop lawful protests and let off shots…
Abuse prostitutes and misuse power they got.
In memory of the victims who are never forgot,
We’ve gotta’ exercise our right to shed light in the dark.
There is an army on the march that doesn’t want you to watch.
You’ve got a weapon in your pocket whether you know it or not.
We, the people, are the only real media we got.
Let’s protect one another from the fucking goon squad.
Fascism’s coming to the U.S.A.
Eyo, Sage, I got something to say!
Verse 2 (Toki Wright):
Film the police! It’s time to make it our priority.
You see these fools are in abuse of their authority.
Crack a fist or you crack a whip.
But that ain’t power you coward, you beat a man with two shackled wrists.
So put their names up on a list next to an asterisk.
Next time you see ‘em blast a clip, then you flash a flick.
Attach a video and pic to your master list.
Be on the news at 6. YouTube views legit.
The cops watch us, so we gotta have the Cop Watchers.
Been in fear of law so long, so now it’s not awkward.
But what is law when it’s wrong. When you slam us on the floor.
Naw, this ain’t World Wrestling Entertainment Raw.
This is Edutainment, y’all. Got a call from B. Dolan.
You try to squabble with Johnny Law and get your meat swollen.
Why you think Bobby and Huey P. were heat holding?
You better load the footage up and get to key stroking.
And while you at it, send one off to the administration,
It’s indicating, all the physical intimidation.
It’s been too long they said to “bear with us.”
That’s when I run up on your caravan and rip off all your D.A.R.E. stickers.
This here is near Hitler’s; weirder than some mere tickets…
You feel privileged ’til your wife get her brassiere lifted.
You disappear quick as Hoffa if you piss a copper,
Off ya’ til you get a Channel 7 News helicopter.
Violence hides in a code of silence, tyrants hide in an alliance,
Quiet or be left somewhere, or get swept inside it.
It’s Goliath vs. a bigger giant.
Got us pulling over so far we ran a curb and hit a hydrant.
It’s systematic how the system has its symptoms,
Of the democratic law that’s been flawed since the pilgrims landed.
So now tell me what you wanna do? Next time you see the boys in blue,
You cock your camera back and point and shoot.

Verse 3 (Jasiri X):
Film the police! I got the Cannon 7D.
Highest definition for when they try to arrest and lynch ‘em,
Then lie and protest the whippin’, not serve and protect the victims.
Their murders, threats and hitmen…observe ‘em and let the witness be
The iphone. Never let bygones be bygones.
Get your flip cam before they get in the whip and ride on.
It’s vital ’cause our survival could depend on a video going viral,
With more viewers than American Idol.
Instead of having to bury a child who…
The cops shot ’cause they thought they carried a rifle.
Then the same cops will go to court and swear on a bible,
And smile to show the teeth that they’re preparing to lie through.
Whether Crips or Piru ,Vice Lords or Gangsta Disciples,
Make sure your camera lens gets an eyeful.
And they liable to try and confiscate it.
Better hold on to that shit like you’re constipated.
‘Cause they’ll pretend them injuries are not related,
Like, “When we arrived we saw him dive head first off the pavement.”
So keep the mini cam stashed in the dash of your mini van.
They’ll crash and smash on any man.
Pull out your Blackberry ’cause cops will take a shot at your black berry,
‘Til we see another black buried.
Don’t act scary, ’cause they’ll empty the gat on ya’,
Stand over your body just to sprinkle the crack on ya’.
Police attacking ya’. Don’t want to see they reflections like Dracula.
But camera’s capture ya’.
Too busy using your flashlight to batter us,
To notice John Singleton was my passenger.
So point, click and shoot they asses,
It’s the only way to get the real truth to the masses.
Jasiri X, I’m making movies like Spike Lee.
I won’t be a law and order special victim like Ice T.

Surprised that this seems to be from the official American Standard Youtube account. It's amusing, but it looks like it was filmed with a camcorder from 2002. Also, every time is two words.

Copyright is obviously juvenile, possessive nonsense and I'm all for shitting on ridiculous laws; but there's a question of tone as well as keeping advertisers and other administrative bullshit like not being harassed by the FBI to worry about.

There are other places we can go to watch full movies and tv episodes. I'm not sure adopting a Laissez-faire if-it-sifts-it's-okay approach would be a total disaster for the site, but I think the "no camcorder recordings of the dark knight, no midget bukkake, no shotgun suicides" rules do a pretty good job of defining the sort of place we want to hang out.

Lack of framing, as in they filmed the water in the foreground instead of putting the freakin boat/truck/whatever in the middle of the frame.>> ^RhesusMonk:

Lol, lack of framing on the beach. What're you an ever-ready cinematographer?>> ^ulysses1904:
Is the person who filmed this stuck in the 1980s, when camcorders first came out? It's almost unwatchable from all the zooms, pans, cuts, shakiness and lack of framing.

Lol, lack of framing on the beach. What're you an ever-ready cinematographer?>> ^ulysses1904:

Is the person who filmed this stuck in the 1980s, when camcorders first came out? It's almost unwatchable from all the zooms, pans, cuts, shakiness and lack of framing.

Is the person who filmed this stuck in the 1980s, when camcorders first came out? It's almost unwatchable from all the zooms, pans, cuts, shakiness and lack of framing.

I'm guessing he used the stabilization within Adobe After Affects.

>> ^rychan:

>> ^EMPIRE:
that's not only a really cool slide, the video is also very well shot too. I guess the guy has one of those good hand steady-cam rigs.

Yeah, the stabilization walking up those stairs was amazing. From the shadow it looked like a normal camcorder, but I suppose he could have had a heavy attachment on the bottom of it.

>> ^EMPIRE:

that's not only a really cool slide, the video is also very well shot too. I guess the guy has one of those good hand steady-cam rigs.


Yeah, the stabilization walking up those stairs was amazing. From the shadow it looked like a normal camcorder, but I suppose he could have had a heavy attachment on the bottom of it.

>> ^Mandtis:

"cheap" little cameras...?


Well, on one hand the cameras this was shot on are $300.

On the other hand a professional grade dv camera can cost from 2 grand upwards.

So, yeah, cheap little cameras.

He looked like an awkward 12 year old when his dad puts the camcorder on him.

"Say hi to the camera, Mike!"

>> ^zor:

A commenter on Slashdot had it right: If we are going to make this protest matter we need to dress properly. Sunday best, if possible. Like MLK did. If we look like a bunch of hippies with camcorders nobody can identify or hope to take our side. Filthy, dirty hippies! Even though there is widespread popular support for this protest very few will acknowledge it.


I disagree, people should choose to dress how they want to dress, not how they think people would prefer them to dress. If dressing nice is important to you, go and protest in a business suit - I imagine after 2-3 days of sleeping on the street you'll regret that decision.

In addition, saying that nobody will identify with these 'filthy dirty hippies' is a pretty big exaggeration, other filthy dirty hippies will! Also, if being a filthy dirty hippy is so bad, why are we leaving it to them to free America from the most fiscally and morally corrupt politicians anywhere in the free world? Shouldn't that be seen as a positive? In my eyes these guys are hero's and judgement should be made solely on their actions.

By the way, if you think they need new clothes so badly, you can send them a donation.