Wait... how are they playing without the remotes??? Is this not on Wii?

EDIT: nm, I see the kinect after scanning back through it.

You have to take a little from Orwell, Huxley, and Bradbury as well.

I can't look at a Kindle or Kinect without thinking about a world voluntarily giving up books for immersion gaming and entertainment.

>> ^Fletch:

>> ^cosmovitelli:
>> ^jmzero:
It's bizarre that there isn't better tools out there for this kind of thing - in particular, I was surprised that MS didn't develop a simplified "movie maker" tool for Kinect.

MS couldn't find their ass with both hands.

Pffft... I can find my ass with both hands tied behind my back.


I can tie your hands back there in a way that you couldn't.

Just sayin.

>> ^cosmovitelli:

>> ^jmzero:
It's bizarre that there isn't better tools out there for this kind of thing - in particular, I was surprised that MS didn't develop a simplified "movie maker" tool for Kinect.

MS couldn't find their ass with both hands.

Pffft... I can find my ass with both hands tied behind my back.

>> ^jmzero:

It's bizarre that there isn't better tools out there for this kind of thing - in particular, I was surprised that MS didn't develop a simplified "movie maker" tool for Kinect.


MS couldn't find their ass with both hands.

It's bizarre that there isn't better tools out there for this kind of thing - in particular, I was surprised that MS didn't develop a simplified "movie maker" tool for Kinect.

>> ^shuac:

Very true. And while all technology products are derivative of earlier products to some degree, I think Microsoft does more bandwagon-jumping than most. Let's look at the evidence.
Java, made by Sun. "Reimagined" by Microsoft.
Console gaming, made by Atari, Nintendo, Sega, Sony, et al. Microsoft gives us Xbox.
Online Music, pioneered by Napster, made legitimate by Apple. Microsoft gives us MSN Music.
MP3 player, pioneered by Rio, made super popular by Apple. Microsoft gives us Zune.
Internet search, pioneered by Archie in 1990, made insanely profitable by Google. Microsoft gives us MSN. And Live Search. And Bing.
Far as tablet computing goes, Microsoft actually has a much bigger history than Apple. I remember MS peddling tablets back in 2001 with XP. Trouble is, XP was never designed as a touch interface. Even as recent as 2008, Microsoft tried this strategy with the Origami.
The innovation Apple made is to take its smartphone OS (whose design is based on touch) and pull it up to the tablet rather than take a full-blown desktop OS and push it down. This is the idea Microsoft is copying with Surface and Windows 8.
Other than Kinect, which is an innovative product since it is more than merely a response to the Wii, I'm not sure Microsoft invented anything. Even its flagship Office suite is based on earlier software (WordStar, WordPerfect, dBase, Lotus 1-2-3). In fact, when Microsoft first licensed MS-DOS to IBM for a huge profit back in 1981, it was essentially QDOS, which they purchased outright from some guy for $50,000. Deal of the century.
You may say, "Well Apple didn't invent the MP3 player. Why aren't they guilty of copying too?"
They are. But Microsoft's history is rife with this sort of "me-too" thing in a way no other company's is. Let me distil my point into one sentence: How many companies are copying Microsoft's products?
To sum up: Microsoft is slim on innovation, fat on looking over the shoulders of the smart kids in class...>> ^Sarzy:
>> ^mtadd:
Microsoft never fails to innovate their name on someone else's product.

Yes, because the iPad was, of course, the first tablet ever.



Cool story bro.

No, seriously though, you do raise some interesting arguments. The only point I was trying to make is that it seems a bit reductionist to dismiss the Surface as merely an iPad clone, when it seems like Microsoft is legitimately trying to do some interesting things with it and Windows 8, rather than just jumping on the iPad bandwagon.

Very true. And while all technology products are derivative of earlier products to some degree, I think Microsoft does more bandwagon-jumping than most. Let's look at the evidence.

* Java, made by Sun. "Reimagined" by Microsoft.
* Console gaming, made by Atari, Nintendo, Sega, Sony, et al. Microsoft gives us Xbox.
* Online Music, pioneered by Napster, made legitimate by Apple. Microsoft gives us MSN Music.
* MP3 player, pioneered by Rio, made super popular by Apple. Microsoft gives us Zune.
* Internet search, pioneered by Archie in 1990, made insanely profitable by Google. Microsoft gives us MSN. And Live Search. And Bing.

Far as tablet computing goes, Microsoft actually has a much bigger history than Apple. I remember MS peddling tablets back in 2001 with XP. Trouble is, XP was never designed as a touch interface. Even as recent as 2008, Microsoft tried this strategy with the Origami.

The innovation Apple made is to take its smartphone OS (whose design is based on touch) and pull it up to the tablet rather than take a full-blown desktop OS and push it down. This is the idea Microsoft is copying with Surface and Windows 8.

Other than Kinect, which is an innovative product since it is more than merely a response to the Wii, I'm not sure Microsoft invented anything. Even its flagship Office suite is based on earlier software (WordStar, WordPerfect, dBase, Lotus 1-2-3). In fact, when Microsoft first licensed MS-DOS to IBM for a huge profit back in 1981, it was essentially QDOS, which they purchased outright from some guy for $50,000. Deal of the century.

You may say, "Well Apple didn't invent the MP3 player. Why aren't they guilty of copying too?"

They are. But Microsoft's history is rife with this sort of "me-too" thing in a way no other company's is. Let me distil my point into one sentence: How many companies are copying Microsoft's products?

To sum up: Microsoft is slim on innovation, fat on looking over the shoulders of the smart kids in class...>> ^Sarzy:

>> ^mtadd:
Microsoft never fails to innovate their name on someone else's product.

Yes, because the iPad was, of course, the first tablet ever.

I post because some might remember this: http://videosift.com/video/Interactive-Kinect-Sandbox which isn't a dupe.

>> ^legacy0100:

Hoooolllleeeeyyyyy shiiiiiiit


Okay, what did I do wrong THIS time, ant?

Was it the 'holy' part? I'm sorry Ant but I happen to be a firm believer of Divinity of feces!!! It fertilizes the earth and help plants germinate! It acts as catalyst of new plant life. Hence why Shit, can be 'holy'

Can't wait for the Kinect version of LOTR, so all the Ring Wraiths, Hobbits and Elves can dance together outside of Mount Doom.

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Very cool demo.

But it would be incorrect to say Kinect only has "crappy waggle games". I believe you're thinking of the Wii. There are already a number of impressive Kinect games and the state of game development for the hardware is still evolving.

>> ^ponceleon:

Fuck the wii and fuck the kinect.


Tell us how you really feel.

Fuck the wii and fuck the kinect.