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2020 Politics

newtboy says...

Stop projecting. 1/2 truths would be an improvement for any right wing "news" organization.

Let's see...Trump declared the entire media, tv to newspapers and everything in between the enemy of America, now you whine and cry that Trump wasn't treated fairly?! Bwaaaahahahaha! Poor little baby, he can dish it out but boy, can he not take 1/10 of it back!
90% negative isn't spin, Trump and his policies and criminal activities and criminal administration and his platform of white nationalism were 95% negative...the media handed him a 5% positivity boost.

Trump's highest approval rating ever...49% (averaging <41%), Biden's high so far is 63% (averaging >55%) which at the time was double Trump's low 30's thanks to his failed little coup.

What's a negative store? It's spelled story, Bob...not storè. Second graders can spell story, Bob.

Biden hasn't kissed Putin's ring on national tv, or taken his word over our intelligence community, nor has Hunter taken $35 million from China as a "gift" during trade negotiations his daddy then tanked, Biden hasn't supported white supremacists, or cuddled up to dictators while ostracizing our allies, or been dismissively divisive at every single opportunity. He doesn't take 10 hours a day of personal time to watch tv or over 300 days to play golf after promising not to, he doesn't retweet Nazis, he doesn't engage in self enrichment at every turn, he doesn't rage tweet 200+ times a day, he doesn't tell outright lies to the public an average of 20 times a day. There's not 3% of the negativity from Trump coming from Biden, yet right wing media is 100% negative...which you fully support.

Time magazine covers?! You want to compare them!?! Ok, do you mean the fake time covers Trump had made up and framed in his office to trick rubes into thinking he's an important businessman? Yes, those are fake news....from fake Trump.

bobknight33 said:

1/2 truths
Slanted stories.
Slanted stories just for the sake if to dump on trump.
CNN MSNBC and other outlets pushed 90%+ negative spin against Trump.

Biden in office negative stores , to few to count


Compare Time magazine of Trump covers VS Biden covers

FAKE NEWS

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Fact check.....
3,500,000 child cases * .008 mortality = 28000 dead children you fucking inhuman monster.
3,500,000 * 10% who have long term disabilities = 350,000 children disabled for life.
Pay up, your ilk being obstinately unsafe caused their disabilities, you should pay to support them for life just as if you were driving blindfolded because Trump said car bumpers make them safe in accidents and you ran over a few, leaving them to die in the streets because getting hurt by a car is fake news.



Well over 570000 dead Americans you Anti American enemy of the people.
32000000 cases * 10% long term side effects like severe permanent heart, lung, brain damage = 3,200,000 disabled people created.

I think it's fair to say most readers here hope you're next. No one is more deserving of infection, no one is more deserving of severe permanent disabilities, no one is less deserving of a vaccine or hospitalization. I hope your children bring it home day 1 when school restarts.

Ask Brazil how following your plan has worked....better yet, put your money where your mouth is and move there, unvaccinated, and let us know.

Fake news made too many ignorant morons fight against public health measures, costing us over 1/2 million deaths and well over $5 Trillion in unnecessary expenses that could ALL have been avoided with adult, serious leadership we sorely lacked for a full year plus until January.

Bob, you ARE fake news. Dangerous, deadly, and costly fake news.

BTW, it costs about an extra $2.2 million to raise a child with disabilities, and an EXTRA $3,175 to $5,853 per month for adults - keep in mind they mostly have no income and don't add to the gdp, so add the average $61,224 cost of living in the US and you have over $120000 per year per person (3200000 disabled so far) you get a recurring yearly cost of your "ignore the danger and get to work/school" plan cost of up to $3.84 e11 ($384,000,000,000) per year so far....an impossible cost to bear. Granted, not every person with permanent damage is totally disabled, so being generous assume only 10% are....still $38,400,000,000 PER YEAR at current average cost not including children. That doesn't include direct cost of hospitalization for covid, from $51,000 to $78,000, nor the loss in gdp from 3.2 million earners gone.
Fuck your $5 Trillion....most of which went to businesses.

bobknight33 said:

Facts checked.

"Seventeen states and DC reported more than
500 cases per 100,000 children.."


"Mortality (44 states and NYC reported)*•Children were 0%-0.8% of all COVID-19 deaths, and 20 states reported zero child deaths"

{{ ie 100 to 99.2% of child covid cased lived}}}


"In states reporting, 0%-0.3% of all child COVID-19 cases resulted in death.."

{{ ie 100 to 99.7% of child covid cased lived}}}

Facts checked.
KIDS are ok to go to school = also all people under 70 ( unless u have some condition) should go about your business.

Were are at about 5 trillion in payouts to keep kids / people home for 0/03% death rate.

Fake news scared tooooo many people.

Radiohead's "Videotape" is weird and amazing

StukaFox says...

Not only is "Videotape" brilliant, it's also incredibly haunting -- right up there with "Exit Music (For a Film)". There's very few pieces of music which have actually stopped me in my tracks and forced me to listen, and "Videotape" is among those few pieces.

Radiohead will be considered "Classcial" music in 200 years.

Saved by my 13-year-old Son | Saving Lives At Sea

newtboy says...

Reminds me of hiking the Milford track in 89. Cold and wet, and my cancer ridden dad started having heart problems, passing out 1/3 of the way up the highest pass, 3700ft. My older much bigger brother saw he was having trouble, so he took off leaving me to deal with him. I had to carry him and both our packs on my back up to the lunch shack at the pass where he finally rested enough to make it down slowly (we almost missed the last boat across the sound). I weighed about 140, he was well over 200 and each pack was 30-40 lbs. He bought me an espresso machine as a reward. I hope he kicked my brother's ass privately too, but I'm not sure.
Good times....good times.

Trump's Star Witness Is A Drunk Karen

vil says...

Wait Bob...
Of the 20+ hours of people speaking you cherry pick a few.
I only like the funny ones.
I personally think that 70% can be explained away in a legit way.
That 70% number is based purely on your personal wishes.
I like 99.9%.
However when election law is not followed... must be looked into.
If you want to accuse of fraud you have to back that up with evidence, not hearsay. This is why elections must have a paper trail, recounts must be possible. If you want to point a finger you have to point it at something concrete, not just flail it at everything at once. All the individual accusations of fraud have turned out to be either nonsense or tiny errors (in both directions).
BARR comes out...
Sad that the great commander is surrounded by these incompetent fools. How different could history have been if only Trumps genius was truly understood and implemented by his minions.
This isn't over. Trump still has fight in him.
Probably. More funny videos incoming.
Those 20+ hours of hearings and meetings have 200,000 to 500,000 viewers watching on line. Too bad Fake news only telling the story of what sock color Biden is wearing.
You seriously want more people to see Karen?

bobknight33 said:

All that.

Trump's Star Witness Is A Drunk Karen

bobknight33 says...

Of the 20+ hours of people speaking you cherry pick a few.

I personally think that 70% can be explained away in a legit way.

However when election law is not followed, as these people have said,
Poll watchers and other republican officials are imitated, and removed, which is against the law,

when completed ballots cross state lines ( NY to PA) ,

When officials tell every to to go home and that the counting for the evening has stopped then pull out suitcases a t from under tables after officials and being run through the machines with out poll watchers there is fraud going on and must be looked into.

BARR comes out sand says what he said, What did FBI,DOJ look at? Not 1 investigation has taken place or finished.

This isn't over. Trump still has fight in him.

Those 20+ hours of hearings and meetings have 200,000 to 500,000 viewers watching on line. Too bad Fake news only telling the story of what sock color Biden is wearing.

newtboy said:

This, @bobknight33, is your "evidence" of fraud, ridiculous claims by clearly crazy hyperbolic people that in no way resembles the verifiable facts.

Thousands of dead people voting? Not according to election officials, the DOJ, the FBI, the records of who voted, and the system designed to catch such frauds. Actually there were some attempts, but only a few Republicans voting as their dead relatives were found, not even double digits.
A woman who says all Chinese people look alike so their votes don't count. That's your second best evidence of fraud.

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Why Lotus Silk Is So Expensive

diego says...

Didnt know this stuff existed, but in any case my conclusion from this video is that capitalism and globalization are disgusting. 3rd world countries people slaving away for 200$ every 2 months, giving their knowledge away, and the narrator is saying its soooo expensive and worth the hard effort for them while he probably earns more money than all her workers combined to do fluff journalism, smh

Bill Maher's election predictions on Jimmy Kimmel

newtboy says...

I think it's on point.
Doctors rarely tell people forcefully enough that being obese will kill them and make their lives miserable and prone to disease. Not being obese helps your health in every way.

No, it's not a guarantee you won't get sick, a seatbelt isn't a guarantee you won't get hurt in a crash, but it absolutely helps your odds of not being hurt and minimizes injuries when you are.

No, being healthy doesn't mean you can't spread disease, but being health conscious means you would know better, and know how to be safer. If you weigh 500 lbs it's clear health isn't your priority with very few exceptions.

Bill has been saying this for decades....it's like he's suggesting fireproof surrounds for wood stoves. Just because people are burning their houses down in huge numbers now is not a reason to stop advocating for safety, it's more reason to be louder.

Most doctors don't. They nudge, hint, maybe say "if you eat more baby, we're going to have to take your foot" (Simpson's), they don't tell 65 year old women "you weigh 350 lbs, you need to drop 200 lbs now or you're going to die and we aren't going to waste money and effort treating you if you won't lose weight". They should, imo.

Being overweight should be treated like smoking, it's a choice for 99%+, and that choice effects others. Covid proves it, many can't be treated at all because so many have horrible illness, far worse than most other thinner and healthier countries.

Fat acceptance, even fat pride is a thing, there are millions who claim they're obese and healthy, and it's fine to be obese. Take Lizzo as an example.

Full disclosure, I'm not obese, but I am overweight at 5'9" 170lbs.

cloudballoon said:

I think Bill's attack on the science/health experts is misguided.

Not that Bill's wrong, mind you. IF you have a good internal (immune) system you'll have a better chance of fighting it off, but

1) that's NOT a guarantee you won't get sick.
2) DOESN'T mean you won't help spread it by being all gun-ho about it, and
3) USA being what it is -- the number of over-weight, obese are just staggering -- what's the point for the health experts to say/shame people with, er, "their pre-conditions" are to blame NOW? How's that gonna help?

Besides, the health experts have been promoting healthy, active living for ages. They're not "cowards" because the people don't listen to them.

It's mind-bogging to me how narcissistic and self-centered American society is. If people just pay any attention outside of American media, they should know how to handle Covid-19.

Trump Lashes Out Over Report He Insulted Fallen Soldiers

newtboy says...

Like the fake story about him knowing personally how deadly and transmissible Covid is in January but telling people it wasn't deadly or a danger that he's admitted now that the tapes are public but denied for 6 months?

Too bad for you you're just parroting another right wing media lie, Bobby. That's why you can't find it reported anywhere besides right wing opinion "news".

What he said is....
"Goldberg then conceded that questions about anonymous sources were “reasonable” to raise, adding that he thought it was fine to “ask why people who have had direct exposure to Donald Trump, who know what Donald Trump has said, who know what Donald Trump has done, but won’t simply come out and say it.”"

The reason is obvious, they don't want their families threatened and attacked by rabid right wing terrorists like others have been.

You have no problem repeating anonymous lies Trump tells you he heard someone is saying on the internet, you know, like vaccines are made from alien DNA, hydroxy is safe and works against Covid, and illness is caused by demon jizz, but when literally dozens of current and former high ranking officials and military all confirm the stories, the fact that they rightly fear retaliation from Trump and the Trumptards only shows they're paying attention. He and your ilk have threatened and attacked every whistleblower he could find....and their families. Remaining anonymous is smart and reasonable....and protected by law.

Not surprisingly, yesterday he was bragging about how he spends his day working so hard for you....9 hours watching Faux opinion tv a day which barely leaves enough time to tweet 200 times before night night time. When does he take the time to lead? Saving that for his next term I suppose.

bobknight33 said:

To bad another fake story.

The editor of the Atlantic just stated well they might be wrong.

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newtboy says...

You're almost right, some few unprofessional doctors say let >75% get it and build herd immunity. They're nuts, that's a guarantee of 10-12 million dead Americans at current reported death rates, and >triple that when you realize that without ICU care the death rate rises to 15%, near 45 million dead, and we are already at and over capacity.
Some doctors (likely many of the same irresponsible unprofessional morons) suggested taking Hydroxychloroquine was a good idea, until professionals proved them 100% wrong.

~4% REPORTED deaths, but we now know if someone gets it, recovers but with devastating lung and brain damage and dies a few weeks later of lung failure they don't count that as an official covid related death even when the death certificate does, so it's definitely higher than 4%, as if that's not high enough.
And what's the percentage that have lifelong debilitating effects like either permanently destroyed lungs or severe brain damage to name two?

Opening while cases are still rising, in direct contradiction to the CDC AND Whitehouse guidelines, guarantees another shutdown for longer, and the loss of far more mom and pop shops in the long run, so absolutely yes it's worth it.

Easy to say others should go back to work when you work from home.
Edit: in places where it CAN be done safely, including a minimum of guaranteed social distancing, masks, and sanitation at all times, I'm all for returning, but many if not most stores/shops can't, especially with the anti-maskers throwing fits. Our local stores limit customer numbers and some will act as personal shoppers for anti maskers and serve them curbside. We have had 200 cases county wide so far in the highest risk state, so it's working here so far.

Only kids under 10 are lower risk, kids over 10 are the same risk factor as everyone else, and under 10 can still bring it home to those more at risk. Restarting schools in states at high risk, nearly all states right now, is a guarantee of a longer, more deadly, more costly second wave.

bobknight33 said:

First of al not ALL agree to stay shut down or to mask up.

% of deaths to infected is small. Is It worth shutting down and loosing mom and pop shops and much more worth it?


I say mask up and go to work.

Kids are the safest demographic.

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JiggaJonson says...

Is it just me or do conservatives even exist anymore? This isn't conservatism, this isn't fiscal responsibility.

I gotta tell you, it's just too ironic that about 3 weeks after my personal favorite candidate, Andrew Yang, got laughed out of the room for having the idea of a universal basic income. It's ironic that those same people who scoffed and treated it like an impossibility, "That will never work!!! It's socialism!!! It'll cost too much!!! Obviously he's a joke and not a good or real candidate. How insane he must be, handing out money to everyone, tisk tisk. IT'S SOCIALISM LIKE NAZIS FROTHfrothFROTHfrothFROTH THEY WANT TO MAKE US NAZIS BY GIVING US MONEY!!! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"

===3 weeks later===

" We're sending everyone in America a check or direct deposit for $1,200 for individuals or $4,000 for a family of four. We think this plan is really a fantastic plan a great plan. This is the best thing we could do."

Graphene Batteries Hit the Market

Spacedog79 says...

Hold on a minute, if graphene is 100 times stronger than steel and 2 atomic layers can be "bulletproof" then that would mean a sheet of steel 200 atoms thick would be equally bulletproof? That would be 1000 times thinner than aluminium foil, what sort of weedy bullets are they using?

Medicare for All: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

JiggaJonson says...

It's cheaper and works better than private insurance right now. That's good enough for me.

Let me put it to you this way, I brought my 77 year old grandma and my 90 year old aunt in for a flu shot and a checkup.

My aunt has Blue Cross and a supplemental insurance plan through her retirement but does not use medicare. Cost to her out of pocket for the visit $40 co-pay.

My grandma uses medicare. Cost to her out of pocket for the visit $0. No co-pay, nothing. Didn't open her purse.

One of those plans cost $200 a month to maintain. Guess which.

Mordhaus said:

I've seen how good medicare is. It really isn't good at all.

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