Tesla Model S adaptive cruise control - crashes into van

The Tesla adaptive cruise control usually works well, but doesn't handle _every_ situation. Like this one. "Yes, I could have reacted sooner" in deed.


YT: Just to make it clear: The Tesla Model S is the absolute best car in the world at the moment. Nothing comes close.

But, in this case there was a problem with the driving aids and also security systems: None of the safety-systems worked correctly:

1. The TACC, active cruise control did not brake as it normally does
2. The automatic braking system (AEB) did not make an emergency brake
3. The forward collision warning turned on way too late, it was set to normal warning distance
4. The TACC actually was speeding up just before I did hit the brakes

Yes, I could have reacted sooner, but when the car slows down correctly 1'000 times, you trust it to do it the next time to. My bad..

I was looking right to find a spot to merge, and did not realize soon enough that the TACC was accelerating towards the van. So my reaction was too slow because of that. It takes a second to realize that the system is failing and you have to take over.
In normal operation, the AP slows down as soon as another car puts one wheel on the lines to your lane.

I was in contact with Tesla Europe, but they could not provide me with any useful information. They just stated that "all systems worked as expected". Well, certainly not how I expected them to work...
dagsays...

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)

It would be interesting to know why it failed. The good thing is that Tesla collects all the telemetry, and if it's a bug - it will be patched.

Paybacksays...

In heavy traffic, should your vehicle die, you can get stuck. For example, a fuel pump gives up. Your engine turns off and you get about 20 ft to pull over at the speeds these people were travelling. It happens. I had a fuel pump go on me at 90kph(55mph), and I barely was able to pull to the right as no one would let me through from the passing lane.

littledragon_79said:

Wonder why he was pulled over to that side of the road and not the shoulder

Esoogsays...

That's what scares me the most about these automated systems..."It worked 1,000 times...just not this time". And I know that there are tons of shitty drivers out there, and when self-driving cars become the majority, maybe accidents will go down...I fear too much complacency.

newtboysays...

I feel like that's what drunk drivers tell themselves before they drunk drive....'it worked 1000 times...why not this time'.
Not that I'm saying using auto pilot is like being drunk, except in the sense that it can seem safe when it might not be....but it's probably 'safer' than >75% of human drivers.
At least it's better than sex panther...because auto pilot is more like '95% of the time it works every time'.

Esoogsaid:

That's what scares me the most about these automated systems..."It worked 1,000 times...just not this time". And I know that there are tons of shitty drivers out there, and when self-driving cars become the majority, maybe accidents will go down...I fear too much complacency.

greatgooglymooglysays...

It should be able to recognize the flashing hazard lights on a vehicle in the same lane and tell the driver to take control. I think a lot of the edge-case programming of these driving computers will be wait till it screws up and fix it so it won't do the same thing again.

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