Ricky Gervais' Guilty Pleasures

Oh I do love him.
alien_conceptsays...

Honestly? He has an incredible intellect, like all great comedians. He just masks it a lot with his admitted childish behaviour.

Fairbssaid:

He thinks he's funnier than I do. Sounds more intelligent here than I would have given him credit before.

robbersdog49says...

I struggled with The Office, mainly because I've worked for people very much like David Brent and couldn't see the funny side. But I've just started watching his latest series Derek and it's completely changed my view of him. It's amazingly well written. He manages to get The most immature dick jokes in there, racist or obscene jokes, physical comedy, clowning, subtle puns and wordplay but all in a plot that is one of the most touching and heartfelt I've seen for a long time, comedy or not.

Great british comedy, like Only Fools and Horses, or Open All Hours, are all about compassion and love. They're funny, but the characters are so well written you really care for them. The writers of Only Fools and Horses managed to write an episode about one of the main characters having a miscarriage. There were jokes throughout the hospital scenes but somehow they didn't stop it being truly tragic, they didn't trivialise it. It was devastating, but funny at the same time.

I'm not sure Derek is quite that level, but it's getting there. It's made me laugh and cry, sometimes at the same time. He's undoubtedly a very clever man and going up in my estimations all the time

Fairbssaid:

He thinks he's funnier than I do. Sounds more intelligent here than I would have given him credit before.

Fairbssays...

What I know of him, incredible intellect seems like a long shot, but it's arguable so agree to disagree on that point. What I don't like about him is that he's always taking shots at people which makes him seem insecure. It's not just one or two people, it's everyone. And the second thing that drives me nuts about him and is more to the point of my original comment can be seen at 2:15. He's laughing hysterically at a joke that is barely funny and it's not him having a laugh with a crowd he's entertaining, it's a laugh to make himself feel that he's clever and funny. I don't think he is.

alien_conceptsaid:

Honestly? He has an incredible intellect, like all great comedians. He just masks it a lot with his admitted childish behaviour.

alien_conceptsays...

Ok, well I don't think I would be able to convince you otherwise. He's quite the love him or hate him type and he certainly seems to revel in playing this arsehole, up himself character, almost begging for people to take him that way. I think beneath that there is a lot more going on. I could be wrong, but who cares anyway

Fairbssaid:

What I know of him, incredible intellect seems like a long shot, but it's arguable so agree to disagree on that point. What I don't like about him is that he's always taking shots at people which makes him seem insecure. It's not just one or two people, it's everyone. And the second thing that drives me nuts about him and is more to the point of my original comment can be seen at 2:15. He's laughing hysterically at a joke that is barely funny and it's not him having a laugh with a crowd he's entertaining, it's a laugh to make himself feel that he's clever and funny. I don't think he is.

alien_conceptsays...

I keep saying that if anything is going to change people's opinion on Gervais it would be Derek. Wednesday 10pm!!

robbersdog49said:

I struggled with The Office, mainly because I've worked for people very much like David Brent and couldn't see the funny side. But I've just started watching his latest series Derek and it's completely changed my view of him. It's amazingly well written. He manages to get The most immature dick jokes in there, racist or obscene jokes, physical comedy, clowning, subtle puns and wordplay but all in a plot that is one of the most touching and heartfelt I've seen for a long time, comedy or not.

Great british comedy, like Only Fools and Horses, or Open All Hours, are all about compassion and love. They're funny, but the characters are so well written you really care for them. The writers of Only Fools and Horses managed to write an episode about one of the main characters having a miscarriage. There were jokes throughout the hospital scenes but somehow they didn't stop it being truly tragic, they didn't trivialise it. It was devastating, but funny at the same time.

I'm not sure Derek is quite that level, but it's getting there. It's made me laugh and cry, sometimes at the same time. He's undoubtedly a very clever man and going up in my estimations all the time

Fairbssays...

I also don't like Ron White who most of my friends think is hysterical. Not sure exactly what it is. Ron and Ricky fall in the arse category, but so do Bill Burr and Larry David in Curb, but I like both of them alot. Congrats on the new token. Fits well with your screen name. Or maybe that's what you've been trying for all along. Clever lad (lass) that Alien Concept

alien_conceptsaid:

Ok, well I don't think I would be able to convince you otherwise. He's quite the love him or hate him type and he certainly seems to revel in playing this arsehole, up himself character, almost begging for people to take him that way. I think beneath that there is a lot more going on. I could be wrong, but who cares anyway

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