My Religion is True, Yours a Mistake!

Comparing Mathematics to religion, the world's most popular Islamic scholar Dr. Zakir Naik explains that Islam is correct while all other religions are mistakes.
jwraysays...

This theocrat's pretense to being a scholar is farcical.

If he understood physics, chemistry, biology, natural history, and human history, he would realize that supposing the existence of a god is not necessary for explaining anything, and hence one cannot be certain of his existence, let alone his existence in the form described by any particular human institution.

conansays...

>> ^rosser99:
What's the deal with the hybrid speaking? I'm not even sure what the native tongue is here (maybe Hindi?), but he falls in to English for random patches. Is this typical?


I've heard that several times from coworkers from india. they switch from Hindi / Urdu to English back and forth during single sentences. Even when talking to their families. Guess that's due to the history of India being a UK colony.

asynchronicesays...

At least he's being straightforward about it. Hard to argue that if you REALLY believe your religion is the ONLY true religion and the rest are putting your soul in danger, why would you risk people's 'spiritual' lives from being corrupted?

Not so hard to see why they are so intolerant; being tolerant, in this sense, is showing a lack of faith.

demon_ixsays...

>> ^chilaxe:
Isn't that throwing stones in glass houses? We say the same thing: http://www.videosift.com/video/Feeling-the
-Hate-In-Jerusalem-on-Obama-s-Cairo-Address#comment-778730

I don't think so, no.

As much as I believe what I believe, I'm willing to let others believe what they want as well. My problem begins when someone else tries to tell me I have to do things his way.

You can decide on who's right and who's wrong yourself, but it's the willingness to allow others to decide on their own who's right and who's wrong that makes a society free.

gwiz665says...

Depends on your definition of agnosticism.

If you want to get more detailed about it, atheism is more like

X is likely 3
Y is likely 4
based on: [big complex equation] (evidence)

where agnosticism is more like x+y may be 2, 4, 6, 7 (...), we can never know which one.

jwraysays...

Religious freedom in most of the middle east is slightly ahead of what Europe had 600 years ago... maybe in a few centuries they'll get on board with the disestablishment of state religion.

mxxconsays...

>> ^conan:
>> ^rosser99:
What's the deal with the hybrid speaking? I'm not even sure what the native tongue is here (maybe Hindi?), but he falls in to English for random patches. Is this typical?

I've heard that several times from coworkers from india. they switch from Hindi / Urdu to English back and forth during single sentences. Even when talking to their families. Guess that's due to the history of India being a UK colony.


what the hell are you two talking about?!
in this video they are clearly speaking about SAUDI ARABIA! where the hell did you get hindi, urdu and india from?!
geez

NetRunnersays...

The funny thing to me, as a bit of a math dork, is that 2+2=4 is only certain because mathematics more or less starts with the assumption that addition works that way.

Why do we assume that? Because it's a pretty basic scientific observation that if I have two of some object, and then get two more, I will have four.

We don't really know why that is the case, but we observe it, and can come up with a theoretical framework for predicting it -- otherwise known as addition.

If Muslims really had the same kind of easily accessible, reliable scientific observations backing up their position on the nature of the universe, it seems to me that there would be about as many non-Muslims in the world as there are people who genuinely believe that 2+2=3.

That said, there's no reason to censor people who would want to argue that 2+2=3 to those who choose to listen (as would happen in a Church or Synagogue), but I probably wouldn't want that person teaching math in an elementary school. However, if it was a college-level course introducing algebraic structures and the concept of mathematics based on different axioms, that would probably be a fine starting point for getting students to question what they think is unquestionably true.

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