*promote @chingalera what do you think

Self promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Friday, March 7th, 2014 1:51pm PST - promote requested by original submitter deathcow.

personally i think it is completely effing awesome

Minor correction @deathcow: min-etune is not on Gibsons top end (Les Paul customs and so on), but on it's mid range guitars.

Primarily because guitarists paying a lot of money for a guitar are wary of anything that interferes with it.

Personally, I don't really have a problem with it in principle. I'm glad it simply winds the machine heads.

I like that it can learn different tunings (I play a lot in Eb and DADGAD).

I guess it would be useful if you wanted to play a set with songs in different tunings on the one guitar.

This one is pretty damn cool
*related=http://videosift.com/video/Tronical-Tune

Tronical Tune has been added as a related post - related requested by eric3579.

so $300 to add this to an existing guitar... tempting for the various tunings

Not sure what pros would think about it, but effing awesome for the rest of us!

I can say, it's excellent for getting different tunings from one guitar. Wouldn't trust a gig on it thou, still need multiple guitars but for home and rehearsals, excellent. If you own a studio, you'd like one these for sure. Maybe if the person is really heavy but i haven't got that problem, learned to play with old school Fender vibra, my guitar rarely goes out of tune in the middle of a session.. But now that i'm completely gone to drop and open tunings, it would be easier to just carry one guitar.

@CreamK
> Maybe if the person is really heavy but i haven't got that problem

why creamk?

Cue all the "real musicians" pooh-poohing it, because, like many innovations before it, it makes music-creation more accessible to everyone. "These newbs don't even tune their instruments! No skills! This is stupid!"

Actually, nevermind, I'm way late to that party. I clicked on the link to the Youtube video and the comments there are already flooded with that sort of nonsense.

Does it work with floating tremolos?
I curse my guitar every time I try to tune it.

What kind of guitar is it? The problem may lie in a cheap-as-hell, made in (insert Asian country here) by shitty manufacturers using crap-ass parts for the machine head.
I would hasten to guess that the floater you have is on a sub-standard axe??

Ibenez RG 5?0.

It has a Floyd Rose style trem.

I do also think it's effing awesome-There's after-market fits for other guitars beside a Gibson, unless you just want a Les Paul or SG (personally, love the action and tone and fretboard on a classic SG because it's wide and smooth all the way up the neck, and because Zappa played hardly anything else).

If you play a lot though and on an axe you know, and I tend to tune a lot between hammerins', you get really fast at getting the thing back in tune becasue you sense the one or two strings that need attention and are always tuning them back between bending the hell out of em.

I DO dig these for the variety of tunings over the perfect pitchitude aspect of it, especially for a go-to rock guitar. It's got like what, five standard tunings plugged-in??

One of the early ones made in Japan? Cause Japan tends to make a decent guitar over say China or Korea-Did it COME with a floating tremolo?

Checked-they're all made in Japan, did come with it-The deal with tremolos is, that there are most likely only a few that can stand up to serious wangin'-on and stay in tune, and those are the ones on some really solid guitars that run in the 1500-3000 dollar new range. Otherwise, you could always get you a vintage Fender Jazzmaster....hehhe, sell yer car and get one!!

Talk to a guitar tech and they'll probably tell you that even a better floating trem wouldn't do well on that Ibanez.

....as in, there are very few that don't need retuning after a serious flexing of that whammy...Those old Gretsch's with a tremolo hold tune pretty well from what i remember

*edit-Schaller and Kahler are what a lotta guitar threads are sayin'...Personally, I've only ever played on the classic old fenders and Gretsches...

Made in Japan. It's a late 90's/early 2000's model. Came with the tremolo installed.
http://ibanez.wikia.com/wiki/Edge

It could be user error.

It looks to me like it has to be activated before it attempts to auto-tune or alters the tuning in any way, so that kinda mitigates both the bad and the good (OK, mostly just the bad).

I've never had a Floyd-Rose guitar myself, but my friends have. Where I have to re-tune only sporadically, sometimes those damn things are a nightmare. On the other hand, some people seem to get them to be pretty stable.

I think this is a good idea for an option -- and very interesting tech -- but not something that I would personally want on a guitar. The other thing that I thought of is, how does it handle standard tunings that aren't in A440? What if I want standard E in A444?

According to the manual, you can have 6 "custom" tunings, where you simply tune the guitar however you want (A444, some crazy microtonal tuning or whatever) and then it "remembers" that tuning.

Ultimately, when the price drops enough, I could see this being fairly standard on guitars and ultimately replacing a tuner (I assume it'd be fairly trivial to build a chromatic tuner into it).

@overdude, I know you're being funny, but I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting that this can replace developing a good ear. Yeah, all those things you mentioned are important, but they're not important all the time. Just because you can drive a manual doesn't mean you can't have an automatic for doing the groceries.

They have had it as an option for a few years (edit: since november 2012, so it's not that old) - the news for 2014 is that MinE-tune now is standard on the Standard models - it was previously an upgrade option.

Gibson putting it on guitars with the name GIBSON boosts my confidence in the product

Old gamename, formed by bashing the keyboard with my forehead and rearranging the letters.. This is one of the last places i still use it, the new one is SquidCap.. Gets much less " i creamed you cream" from other gamers.. And i had no idea until it was too late that it was kind of dirty nickname..

: ) Deathcow is from quake-2 online days

I meant though... why, @CreamK, if the person is really heavy

Yeah, I'm aware - now - that this commentary-versation was going in a completely different direction than I was taking it. Unfortunately, I sometimes can't resist the urge to respond to the immediacy of what my gut might be feeling... meaning, I started typing my snotty remark before I dove into the meat of what all the previous comments were focusing on. After I hit the submit button, I did realize this fact, but I re-read my post, and was still rather proud of my observations.

So I figured I'd leave my blurb up just in case there was anyone out there who might not be as musically oriented as some of us, but still has an appreciation for viewing some of the ""TOOLS"" that have resulted from the ever evolving technologies of THIS MODERN AGE, as the absurdities they often are.

The rest of you who are taking the other fork in the road of this dialogue, move along.... nothing to see here.

Told Baristan to check out a guitar I fell in love with the second I picked it up and played it- Tom Anderson Guitarworks-Small-batch luthier, he cut his teeth on his process with Gibson and Fender I believe, incredible axe, but you wait and pay for it.
http://www.andersonguitars.com/

Lifetime instrument though, really really want one eventually. That and an SG-(with a triple-stack of 57' Classic Plus Humbuckers)

Similar to this one...even has a tremolo
http://www.zzounds.com/item--GIBSGDX
Hmm, kinna dig the lime as well, and that Bigsby Tremolo adds a retro feel to it....Really like the look of that Bigsby now....

FUCK man, why did you guys get me all wanting guitars I gotta save-up big bucks for??

Gibson first had this tech on a limited run of Les Pauls in 2007. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibson_Robot_Guitar

Man, that is a seriously green guitar!

Not my cup of tea, but the faded red version just looks amazing.

that SG looks lovely.... i wonder how that tremelo is

That looks brilliant.