It was probably Tim Thomas on his day off.

*WTF??.....That's just *terrible.

Adding video to channels (Terrible, Wtf) - requested by Barseps.

And the 5 year old found it

Some people are truly ignorant, disturbed, and misguided.

Probably a Glenn Beck viewer

Psychopath. Honestly, if you can be that cruel to an animal I don't really believe they won't do it to a human. Just a complete lack of empathy.

>> Quantummushroom said: What the liberal cat-owning taxocrats fail to realise is that leftists have a long history of cat mutilation, as shown by their cat-hater-in-chief, Odumba.

Just saving him the trouble.

I think its inhumane, but cat's aren't people. Doing this to a cat does not necessarily mean they could do it to a person, IMO.

>> ^Jinx:

Psychopath. Honestly, if you can be that cruel to an animal I don't really believe they won't do it to a human. Just a complete lack of empathy.

>> ^longde:

I think its inhumane, but cat's aren't people. Doing this to a cat does not necessarily mean they could do it to a person, IMO.
>> ^Jinx:
Psychopath. Honestly, if you can be that cruel to an animal I don't really believe they won't do it to a human. Just a complete lack of empathy.



Animal abuse is actually pretty highly correlated with other violent crime towards humans, to the extent that a quick Googling to verify my faulty memory found the assertion that a study found that *100%* of studied sexual homicides found that they all practiced torturing animals first.

Of course, human-violence => animal-violence != animal-violence => human-violence, but still.

Don't forget that the liberal deserved it because liberals are terrible people ethically and morally. Otherwise, spot on.

>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> Quantummushroom said: What the liberal cat-owning taxocrats fail to realise is that leftists have a long history of cat mutilation, as shown by their cat-hater-in-chief, Odumba.
Just saving him the trouble.

That's not fair. I would be surprised if he wasn't as disgusted by this as the rest of us.

(Please don't surprise me, qm) >> ^ChaosEngine:

>> Quantummushroom said: What the liberal cat-owning taxocrats fail to realise is that leftists have a long history of cat mutilation, as shown by their cat-hater-in-chief, Odumba.
Just saving him the trouble.

The person did it themselves to get attention ... oh wait it was a liberal cat in the south ... nm wheres the rednecks!

Who is that? >> ^Drachen_Jager:

It was probably Tim Thomas on his day off.

>> ^longde:

I think its inhumane, but cat's aren't people. Doing this to a cat does not necessarily mean they could do it to a person, IMO.
>> ^Jinx:
Psychopath. Honestly, if you can be that cruel to an animal I don't really believe they won't do it to a human. Just a complete lack of empathy.



What does it show? That they're able to inflict horrible suffering on a creature without being halted by such measly things as compassion or empathy. An act like this is a huge warning sign that we're dealing with a morally bankrupt piece of shit, at the least, or psychopath, at the worst.

A human being without empathy who acts immorally is someone who, if rehabilitation isn't possible, the community needs to get rid of.

Doesn't any one remember how the Nazis and brown shirts did this sort of thing to the Jews leading up to WWII?

Assuming Cabaret used valid source material for its book.

Maybe it was a skinhead. They have them in the South, don't they?

I'll only accept that argument from vegans. The rest of us humans inflict horrible suffering on animals (or directly benefit from it) all the time. I think what the data referenced above shows is that many or most people who are sadistic fiends have once hurt animals, not the opposite, that most people who hurt animals will turn into sadistic fiends (unproven, but could be true).

What separates a cat from a cockroach? Both are animals, right? I have horribly murdered so many cockroaches and flies it's ridiculous. I knew kids who used to kick over or flood ant mounds. Lemme check facebook...yep, all psychopaths.

The reason doesn't matter if the concern is for the suffering of sentient beings, right? So, what about sport hunters? Butchers? Livestock Farmers? Chefs? You get the point. All these people inflict great pain on animals. I guess my whole extended family are closet ax murderers, since it contains sport hunters, sport fishermen, people who raise and slaughter hogs, etc.....and people who used to go to Red Lobster on weekends.

I myself don't think cats are any more entitled than hogs, deer, chickens, lobsters and cows...or flies and cockroaches. And certainly not on the same level as humans (which too many people believe). So, while I recognize that cats et al suffer, feel empathy and would never hurt any animal (I don't even like killing spiders now; even at the behest of my wife)*; I can't get as worked up over this as some of you are.


(BTW, this conversation reminds me of the Lawrence Block story "How would you like it?")

*edit: except mosquitoes. >> ^Gallowflak:

>> ^longde:
I think its inhumane, but cat's aren't people. Doing this to a cat does not necessarily mean they could do it to a person, IMO.
>> ^Jinx:
Psychopath. Honestly, if you can be that cruel to an animal I don't really believe they won't do it to a human. Just a complete lack of empathy.


What does it show? That they're able to inflict horrible suffering on a creature without being halted by such measly things as compassion or empathy. An act like this is a huge warning sign that we're dealing with a morally bankrupt piece of shit, at the least, or psychopath, at the worst.
A human being without empathy who acts immorally is someone who, if rehabilitation isn't possible, the community needs to get rid of.

BTW, I have been reading Gary Francione's Rain Without Thunder. I would love to hear where you all stand with respect to animal rights (sentient beings have nearly the same rights as humans) vs. animal welfare (animal should be treated well in the service of humans, but suffering to serve human need is OK).

Here a recent article about him: http://www.believermag.com/issues/201102/?read=interview_francione

No one knows the catkiller's state of mind. To suggest that he's a psychopath is reaching and namecalling at the best.

Animal cruelty is fine, IF the animal is delicious. Otherwise it's fucking sick.

The Boston Bruins goalie. The Bruins met with Obama that day so he could congratulate them on winning the Stanley Cup, but Thomas refused to go citing 'political differences' with the president. Now we know how he spent his time.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Who is that? >> ^Drachen_Jager:
It was probably Tim Thomas on his day off.

I hate animal abuse, and suspect more people would readily shoot a human in the act of beating a dog or cat than beating another human.

If it had been a story about a conservative's cat killed by a seemingly liberal fiend,

1) You wouldn't have seen it. Ever. Perhaps on Fox.

2) Of if you did see it on CNN or in the NYT the slant would be, 'Mean rich conservative kept cat outdoors and vulnerable.'

Don't deny this.

And enough downvoting of longde's comments, already. His argument may not be popular, but it's logical.

The slaughter of animals for human consumption and products is tragic 'from a certain point of view', but in many of those processes the animals are killed as humanely as possible.

A random a-hole assaulting living creatures without purpose should appreciate the karmic receipt for such violence, especially from club-wielding bystanders.


>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

That's not fair. I would be surprised if he wasn't as disgusted by this as the rest of us.
(Please don't surprise me, qm) >> ^ChaosEngine:
>> Quantummushroom said: What the liberal cat-owning taxocrats fail to realise is that leftists have a long history of cat mutilation, as shown by their cat-hater-in-chief, Odumba.
Just saving him the trouble.

>> ^longde:

I'll only accept that argument from vegans. The rest of us humans inflict horrible suffering on animals (or directly benefit from it) all the time. I think what the data referenced above shows is that many or most people who are sadistic fiends have once hurt animals, not the opposite, that most people who hurt animals will turn into sadistic fiends (unproven, but could be true).
What separates a cat from a cockroach? Both are animals, right? I have horribly murdered so many cockroaches and flies it's ridiculous. I knew kids who used to kick over or flood ant mounds. Lemme check facebook...yep, all psychopaths.
The reason doesn't matter if the concern is for the suffering of sentient beings, right? So, what about sport hunters? Butchers? Livestock Farmers? Chefs? You get the point. All these people inflict great pain on animals. I guess my whole extended family are closet ax murderers, since it contains sport hunters, sport fishermen, people who raise and slaughter hogs, etc.....and people who used to go to Red Lobster on weekends.
I myself don't think cats are any more entitled than hogs, deer, chickens, lobsters and cows...or flies and cockroaches. And certainly not on the same level as humans (which too many people believe). So, while I recognize that cats et al suffer, feel empathy and would never hurt any animal (I don't even like killing spiders now; even at the behest of my wife) ; I can't get as worked up over this as some of you are.

(BTW, this conversation reminds me of the Lawrence Block story "How would you like it?")
edit: except mosquitoes. >> ^Gallowflak:
>> ^longde:
I think its inhumane, but cat's aren't people. Doing this to a cat does not necessarily mean they could do it to a person, IMO.
>> ^Jinx:
Psychopath. Honestly, if you can be that cruel to an animal I don't really believe they won't do it to a human. Just a complete lack of empathy.


What does it show? That they're able to inflict horrible suffering on a creature without being halted by such measly things as compassion or empathy. An act like this is a huge warning sign that we're dealing with a morally bankrupt piece of shit, at the least, or psychopath, at the worst.
A human being without empathy who acts immorally is someone who, if rehabilitation isn't possible, the community needs to get rid of.



Yes, we all benefit from the suffering of animals, that's true, but there's not an equivalence between that and inflicting it oneself.

There's a vast difference between animals suffering as a consequence of an action that has utility and inflicting suffering for its own sake.

@Gallowflak, so where do you place sport hunting/sport fishing? Where the utility in that?

>> ^longde:

@Gallowflak, so where do you place sport hunting/sport fishing? Where the utility in that?


Its actual utility is questionable, but I still think there's a clear gulf between that and, to put it one way, inflicting suffering pointlessly.

It really depends on the intentions of the person. I don't think that most hunters are out to cause suffering; they're out to indulge themselves in their activity. Inflicting cruelty isn't the objective, then, and it's a very different psychological process.

The question is: what are the origins of this behaviour? What does it mean? How does it reflect on the person acting in that way?

And my argument is that those who act to cause pain and suffering (esp. on a sentient entity) and are capable of doing this without remorse, and without empathy, are dangerous, disgusting and obscene.

You guys miss the point. Cats are cute. You shouldn't desecrate cute things. It's just wrong.