*politics. and, being a foreigner myself, I agree with Zizek on this one:)

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Interesting, but phenomenally anti-democratic. Then again, the US political system is phenomenally anti-democratic already... was that the point being made?

The Americans already attempt to enforce their beliefs on the rest of the world, why not try it the other way around? >> ^hpqp:

Interesting, but phenomenally anti-democratic. Then again, the US political system is phenomenally anti-democratic already... was that the point being made?

>> ^Fusionaut:

The Americans already attempt to enforce their beliefs on the rest of the world, why not try it the other way around? >> ^hpqp:
Interesting, but phenomenally anti-democratic. Then again, the US political system is phenomenally anti-democratic already... was that the point being made?



I guess I'm just not one for fighting fire with fire.

America is supposed to be that wonderland that everyone aspires to become - only it isn't.
The people around the world still hold on to that idea. By asking them to vote - they would project their vision of the ideal country upon the USA, instead of having the already jaded and defeated population do the voting.

It's always easier to see something from the outside.

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Probably wouldn't work since a very populace country would dominate any election and you'd probably have two huge China super interests. Interesting idea that he probably thought of on the spot and thought he was a genius for doing so.

Though if each country got only one vote that might make it interesting!

The voting age should be lowered to six years-old, maybe put a ceiling at eleven years-old. Old enough to read, but young enough to still believe in sharing and being nice to people.

It's my general understanding that people outside of the US know more about US politics than most US citizens.

That would work... if you want a Chinese, East Indian, or Muslim "puppet" president...


Seriously though, the rest of the world has no greater skill voting in THEIR leaders, why let them have a say in US politics?

using this for my selfish selfpromotion, of course, but I've posted a lot of Zizek related material, if anyone's interested. still rotting in my personal queue (for now;)

Why stop there, let's only let aliens from space vote in any election on earth.

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Why not have your next door neighbor make all your financial decisions and buy your groceries. Here's your broccoli, like it or else.

>> ^Payback:

Seriously though, the rest of the world has no greater skill voting in THEIR leaders, why let them have a say in US politics?


Because then americans could blame someone else for their problems instead of themselves.
Oh, wait, they're doing that already, so nevermind.


Warning: Post may contain a bit of generalization.

>> ^AeroMechanical:

The voting age should be lowered to six years-old, maybe put a ceiling at eleven years-old. Old enough to read, but young enough to still believe in sharing and being nice to people.


And Santa, Hogwarts, the Easter Bunny, the Great Pumpkin, and God. Gotta get to 'em before parents destroy some wonderful fantasies and instill/strengthen a horrible one. Churches would be made of giant candy canes and sugar cookies.

>> ^TheGenk:

>> ^Payback:
Seriously though, the rest of the world has no greater skill voting in THEIR leaders, why let them have a say in US politics?

Because then americans could blame someone else for their problems instead of themselves.
Oh, wait, they're doing that already, so nevermind.

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Just "a bit". Who are we blaming, generally, btw?

>> ^Fletch:

>> ^TheGenk:
>> ^Payback:
Seriously though, the rest of the world has no greater skill voting in THEIR leaders, why let them have a say in US politics?

Because then americans could blame someone else for their problems instead of themselves.
Oh, wait, they're doing that already, so nevermind.
Warning: Post may contain a bit of generalization.

Just "a bit". Who are we blaming, generally, btw?


Blaming other Americans counts.

Fuck politics - BURN THE SYSTEM (yeah might be drunk but hey-ho)

>> ^Sagemind:

America is supposed to be that wonderland that everyone aspires to become - only it isn't.
The people around the world still hold on to that idea. By asking them to vote - they would project their vision of the ideal country upon the USA, instead of having the already jaded and defeated population do the voting.
It's always easier to see something from the outside.


The "jaded and defeated population" don't vote.

I can get a BBQ meatball sandwich delivered to my house if'n I don't feel like bothering with putting my shoes on. Just about any kind of food I desire is available to me. When I'm feeling olympic and must forage for food, I have my choice of 6 large chain grocery stores within three miles of my home. I have a car. I can go anywhere I please in this country without fear. I have 240 channels (60 HD) on my television. There's a convenience store two minutes in every direction from just about every square foot of this country (seemingly). I can hike in the wilderness far from "civilization" and not have to worry about bandits or terrorists, and because I have the entire fricking world in the palm of my hand, I'll never get lost. I don't have a computer. I have four computers with high speed access. I have running water; hot water on tap, a microwave, and more goddamn dishes and silverware and towels and t-shirts than any one person should ever need. I can go see the Blazers play, watch live jazz, a choice of music festivals during the spring and summer, live theater, short trip west to the beautiful Oregon coast, or trip south for the Timber Festival or one of several plays in Ashland at the Shakespearean Festival. When I opt to go see a movie over reading any damn book in the world on my Kindle, there's seven movie theaters in my area, and I can even afford the insane prices for soda and Raisenets. Education opportunities abound here, regardless of your age or income. You can learn how to fly a plane at several local small airports, or jump out of one. I have a "headphone drawer".

I make less money than the average American, and I'm RICH, and thankful that I was so damn lucky to be born in the United States of Wonderland.

Interesting idea to inspire people to think outside the box, but it's not an actually useful idea that would solve, well, anything really.

Jón Gnarr Kristinsson is living proof that only residents of Reykjavík should be allowed to vote.

I don't think you guys see what this guy is proposing. If we don't have to vote They can't tax us! NO TAXES THIS IS GREAT!

>> ^hpqp:

Interesting, but phenomenally anti-democratic. Then again, the US political system is phenomenally anti-democratic already... was that the point being made?


The way I saw it, he was pointing out that the U.S. seems to feel the need to run other countries as it is, so wouldn't it only be fair to allow them to elect "their own" government? I think much of his point may have been muddled by his tongue-in-cheek joke suggesting that instead of the entirety of the globe voting, everyone but America votes being crammed in to too short a time frame.

Though there might have been some seriousness, or at least an element of poetic justice, to the idea in that it would give the American people an idea of what it is like when a government that you had no part in bringing into power starts making drastic decisions that affect both you and your country.

But again, that's just what I saw.

Zizek is known for being reactionary because it gets the point across and starts a dialogue. We give lip to people like him whereas, were he to present moderate pragmatic views, many wouldn't pay him any mind at all.

>> ^Murgy:

That's what I heard, too. In spades.


>> ^hpqp:
Interesting, but phenomenally anti-democratic. Then again, the US political system is phenomenally anti-democratic already... was that the point being made?

The way I saw it, he was pointing out that the U.S. seems to feel the need to run other countries as it is, so wouldn't it only be fair to allow them to elect "their own" government? I think much of his point may have been muddled by his tongue-in-cheek joke suggesting that instead of the entirety of the globe voting, everyone but America votes being crammed in to too short a time frame.
Though there might have been some seriousness, or at least an element of poetic justice, to the idea in that it would give the American people an idea of what it is like when a government that you had no part in bringing into power starts making drastic decisions that affect both you and your country.
But again, that's just what I saw.

This guy is an idiot. A statement as stupid as his isn't worth the air-time nor the space on the Internet that harbours it.

In fact, I don't know why I'm posting here. Doing so only gives it some form of credibility.

If voting changed anything, it would be outlawed.