Zero Punctuation Review - Metal Gear Solid 4

Yahtzee reviews Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots: Tactical Espionage Action.
budzossays...

To everyone who tries to be funny: Stop stringing together random nouns like George Carlin and Eddie Murphy did when it was actually funny, and most importantly stop using "Abraham Lincoln" if you're going to do it.

Rambaldisays...

Pretty weak for a Yahtzee review. But I guess I've read so many negative reviews of MGS games already that I pretty much knew what he was going to say.
I like MGS, but you won't find me hiding behind Yahtzee's house (or at least not because of this review).

Abel_Priscsays...

It was good, but he basically did this review to shut everyone up about it. I'm sure he's been spammed with demands for this. The thing is, though, is that everybody who's either played the previous games or keeps up with current video game news know the flaws of MGS4 by now, because they're just so blatantly obvious that only the most hardcore of fanboys can turn their shoulder to them. Horrible story filled with shit that's completely unnecessary, and clunky gameplay.

spoco2says...

Well, I was still entertained by this much more than most drivel on the web, so it's most deserving of the upvote.

Also, it's good to see that they've worked out some way to monetize his videos (the ads at the end), but my god does drawn by pain look terrible, a bit like the martial arts film we tried to make in high school, only with bad drawings slapped on top.

dannym3141says...

I've just read 2 comments on this video (above spoco) that almost criticise yahtzee for doing his job; being a game critic.

"This sucked, we all knew it was shit and he just said it was shit."

Would you expect him to say it was good just to surprise you? As well to criticise a poet for writing prose that rhymes - SO predictable!

NetRunnersays...

Actually, I'm kinda disappointed. Yahtzee really phoned this one in. That review could've been the review of any of the previous MGS titles, but MGS4 actually has streamlined controls, and very inventive gameplay that builds on the strengths of the previous games.

The story is what it is, and it gets wrapped up nicely, if not particularly inventively in this game. However, given how many people come to yell at me about how everything I post is meaningless because CFR is a shadow government ruling the world from behind the scenes, I'd imagine there'd be a lot of people here who would easily buy the plot of MGS as being an unauthorized history of the real world (just replace CFR with Patriots, and you're set).

I take from his review that he never liked any of them, which is fine, but it's a shame that he couldn't even come up with some original ways to eviscerate it.

8478says...

You kind of have to watch Yahtzee's reviews knowing that his game preferences tend to be quick-fixes in that he seems to hate almost every type of game that has a long in-depth or convulted storyline (ie. he hates almost all RPGs) and that you have to take ZP as it is; which is just one person's (biased) view on games.

I mean, I almost had a brain aneurysm when I heard that he hated Planescape: Torment. I think I've gotten over it though.

Possibly.

Maybe.

Ah dammit. *Goes to find a rock*

Sylvester_Inksays...

He didn't say he hated Planescape: Torment, he just disliked the excessive text dialog.

Incidentally, I myself found Yahtzee's own Chzo Mythos series to be much more engaging and better written than the entire MGS series. (Excluding Metal Gear 1 and 2, which were straightforward and simple.)

10128says...

Something tells me this guy would rail against a game that was heavily text-laden and well-written for not being "exciting" enough. One of my favorite games of all time with a pace and quality that will never become popular again is Betrayal at Krondor. This generation just won't stand for it, but to me there is no golden rule that says a video game has to be go-go-go-kill-kill-kill 100% of the time. I rather enjoy the interactive book genre back when it was popular. Now there is no narration, we expect voice acted dialogue and no text to read. Usually, the voice acting is shitty and ruins an otherwise good script. Meh...

NetRunnersays...

Yes, Yahtzee hates games with lots of story (regardless of the quality of story). Yes, he seems to only like first person shooters, or something really inventively different (like Portal).

But when he lampooned Mass Effect I laughed really hard, because he definitely nailed it where the game was actually weak, and did so in a creative way.

With MGS4, he hammered it on its most improved aspect (the controls for combat), said the tranq gun totally invalidates the need to sneak (which means he either didn't play the game, or needs to turn up the difficulty), and said the AI sucks (turn up the difficulty, man).

He's right about the writing lending itself to long bouts of exposition, but comparing it to the world's largest pie was just weird, and not particularly funny.

Not like the bit about Mass Effect characters throwing a book at you whenever you get near them. That was funny.

EDDsays...

I just can't stand this whole series, especially the dialogue, which, I must say, Yahtzee nailed his critique on, and yes, there actually is a back-story for me hating it, but I won't go into it out of fear for being stabbed in the liver over the tubez by an internet-dwelling teenage conspiracy theorist.

That said, AI is complete and utter shit in most recent games anyway. Last FPS I played that had challenging AI was the first Half-Life and Opposing Force. Nowadays too many developers strive to accomplish this weird (unwritten) achievement of having and boasting no scripts in AI, etc., etc., the result of which is, e.g. Crysis, which was a laughable experience played throughout by a mediocre player (me) on the hardest difficulty and actually dying in game for the first couple of times in the second-to-last level. Well, at least Valve in Half-Life 2 admitted to have a set of scripted outcomes for AI actions, thus not having it suck my (basket-) balls.

So I will use this opportunity to call out to all the game developers that are undoubtedly listening to every comment here on VS - stop doing this "modern progressive responsive" AI nonsense AND USE SCRIPTS WHENEVER THEY COME IN HANDY.

In conclusion, however,
WII AS IN PEE???
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MINKsays...

i could not believe how shit MGS 1 was, it was probably the last game i played to the end. it wasn't worth it. The gameplay felt like one of those text based adventure games from the 80s. Go West. You see an enemy here. Kill enemy. Take keycard. Go west. jesus christ.

Kruposays...

I'm going to start smacking the *commercial tag on the reviews that contain ads at the end. Seriously.

Two ads, one for NinajGaiden2 and drawbypain.com show up after the actual review. Both forgettable.

Rambaldisays...

dannym3141, we weren't expecting him to say it was good.
Ahem.
<Yahtzee-script>
Yahtzee reviews work because they often make points that few reviewers make, unless they want to get fired and start a blog that no one will read with the exception of game journalists. The reviews are extremely blunt and as exaggerated as a 60 year old person carrying 160 pounds of armament. Frankly, I'm not terribly interested in whether Yahtzee says the game is good or not because I realize that what he says in the review may not represent what he thinks of the game but rather is a collection of jabs at how silly the game is which is usually enjoyable but certainly not a consideration when deciding whether to buy the game or not which is a decision better supported by reading Gamespot for ******** or by seeking the advice of friends or the clerk at the store for those who have none. Mostly however when I know what Yahtzee is going to say it's less entertaining than playing minesweeper where at least there's some element of surprise but I can't be disappointed. Oh and BTW being a game critic doesn't mean not saying that something is good and while Yahtzee does give a good review once in a while it's true that we don't expect a good review so I guess what I'm really saying here is that Yahtzee reviews aren't really game criticism as much as they're game bashing, and this time the bashing just wasn't funny.
</Yahtzee-script>

Memoraresays...

the novelty of his style wears thin after a while.

Hell for him will be to play Colossal Cave for all eternity. "You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike."

and Planescape: Torment = God

MarineGunrocksays...

"Who lives on through his arm that was grafted onto.. OH CHRIST! I can't go on! This shit is bananas!"

Agreed. Any game that goes from MGS1 to a story like that is just fucking retarded. I didn't know videogames could jump the shark.

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