Wisconsin & Anonymous Strike Back!

Cenk Uygur on MSNBC explains that although Governor Scott Walker and other Republicans in Wisconsin won the initial battle of union busting and crushing workers rights, the people and the unions are fighting back. Also, breaks down a video by Anonymous 99 introducing their plan to 'engage in a relentless campaign of non-violent, peaceful, civil disobedience' to fight back against crime by banks and government agencies. They announced an upcoming 'Operation Empire State Rebellion'.
Winstonfield_Pennypackersays...

In other news - human beings need to respirate oxygen to survive.

I don't think there's anyone particularly amazed at the concept that the unions would continue to squeal like stuck pigs and use thuggery, force, violence, and threats to make sour grape juice. Unions are swaggering around Wisconsin in droves threatening businesses and consumers alike with 'consequences' unless they do what they want. It's hard to say what will happen in the long run, but I really hope all these bought & paid for mafioso sleazebags get what they deserve - a swift kick in the pants.

quantumushroomsays...

Unions are fine, as long as they're negotiating with their respective private companies. And if/when their business model fails, both union and business should be allowed to fail and disappear. While GM failed, Toyota was still making vehicles and their non-union workers are paid well.

Authorizing "public" unions was a mistake. Kennedy didn't live long enough to see his folly. The taxpayer is bled like a stuck pig by the puppet with a sharp stick that unions elect. Union worker performance is held accountable by no one: competence, merit and competition never even enter the equation.

How does this graft protect my "worker rights" or help society?

Peroxidesays...

>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:

In other news - human beings need to respirate oxygen to survive.


"In physiology, respiration (often mistaken with breathing) is defined as the transport of oxygen from the outside air to the cells within tissues, and the transport of carbon dioxide in the opposite direction."

-wikipedia

It would seem to me mr. pennypacker, that if respiration only involved oxygen we would perish. Ignoring carbon dioxide, how republican of you!

petpeevedsays...

"In other news - human beings need to respirate oxygen to survive.

I don't think there's anyone particularly amazed at the concept that the unions would continue to squeal like stuck pigs and use thuggery, force, violence, and threats to make sour grape juice. Unions are swaggering around Wisconsin in droves threatening businesses and consumers alike with 'consequences' unless they do what they want. It's hard to say what will happen in the long run, but I really hope all these bought & paid for mafioso sleazebags get what they deserve - a swift kick in the pants."

Did you get this upset when Wall Street threatened the world with a 'global financial meltdown' if the taxpayers don't cough up ~700 billion to cover their failed ponzi scheme built on CDOs?

Didn't think so.

I'd educate you on how slimy this latest push by the Republicans is to strip the last dregs of leverage from average working Americans but you already know so instead I'll just say fuck you.

Good day.

Yogisays...

>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:

In other news - human beings need to respirate oxygen to survive.
I don't think there's anyone particularly amazed at the concept that the unions would continue to squeal like stuck pigs and use thuggery, force, violence, and threats to make sour grape juice. Unions are swaggering around Wisconsin in droves threatening businesses and consumers alike with 'consequences' unless they do what they want. It's hard to say what will happen in the long run, but I really hope all these bought & paid for mafioso sleazebags get what they deserve - a swift kick in the pants.


Yeah got it. You wanna join your fellow Americans in fighting for fairness...or you wanna support rich people as they get richer and hurt the middle and lower classes. Cause for the past 30 years the people have been getting fucked...everyone knows it just ask the Tea Partiers.

HaricotVertsays...

... and then you remembered what the "MS" part of "MSNBC" stands for?

>> ^handmethekeysyou:

Maybe it's because I work in television and sit next to the head of rights & clearances, but my first though was "there's no way they got that logo clear with Microsoft for that use.">> ^ToastyBuffoon:
Remember: The web = Internet Explorer.


Winstonfield_Pennypackersays...

Yup. I stand by every word of that. The whole Wisconsin kerfuffle had almost nothing to do with "fairness". It was all about Union power and money. To a man, the protests were bought, paid for, and stoked by a bunch of swaggering, thuggish, threatening, mafioso sleazebags.

http://bigjournalism.com/jjmnolte/2011/03/18/20-days-of-left-wing-thuggery-in-wisconsin-when-will-obama-democrats-and-msm-call-for-civility/

And after the law passed they are not done. They're going around threatening businesses who don't actively support THEM (unions) with financial ruin. They are threatening families. They are threatening people. They are using violence. There is nothing to praise about these people. They are scum and don't deserve one iota of sympathy.

But of course they are not done. This Cenk vid showing them ratcheting up their rhetoric and activity was easy to predict. Unions were never going to just shrug and go, "Oh well - guess we better start behaving..." Nope. Not with Indiana, Ohio, and several other states in the process of passing similar laws that scale back on the lavish union gravy trains in many locations. The unions know they are facing a huge tide of popular sentiment against them, and they are going to bus in every thug, make every threat, slap every woman, punch every old guy, and beat up any kid they have to in order to make sure they can keep living like pigs on the public dollar.

longdesays...

Your claims are based on a website that has been caught in several blatant lies. Biggovernment is simply not credible. I would be curious to see actual instances of thuggery and brutality by unions. Has the governer supported these claims? The state repub senators? Anyone with some credibility?

Psychologicsays...

>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:

Yup. I stand by every word of that.


Yes, and when there are threats and violence in conservative groups you label those people "fringe"... not part of the "real" movement (ex- tea party).

It isn't unexpected though. It's fairly common for people to highlight the positives in their own groups and the negatives of opposing groups. When discussion of a group's ideas is ineffective, attack their character instead.

But of course, I'm not telling you anything you haven't lambasted others for. =)

petpeevedsays...

>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:

Yup. I stand by every word of that. The whole Wisconsin kerfuffle had almost nothing to do with "fairness". It was all about Union power and money. To a man, the protests were bought, paid for, and stoked by a bunch of swaggering, thuggish, threatening, mafioso sleazebags.
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tp://bigjournalism.com/jjmnolte/2011/03/18/20-days-of-left-wing-thuggery-in-wisconsin-when-will-obama-democrats-and-msm-call-for-civility/

And after the law passed they are not done. They're going around threatening businesses who don't actively support THEM (unions) with financial ruin. They are threatening families. They are threatening people. They are using violence. There is nothing to praise about these people. They are scum and don't deserve one iota of sympathy.
But of course they are not done. This Cenk vid showing them ratcheting up their rhetoric and activity was easy to predict. Unions were never going to just shrug and go, "Oh well - guess we better start behaving..." Nope. Not with Indiana, Ohio, and several other states in the process of passing similar laws that scale back on the lavish union gravy trains in many locations. The unions know they are facing a huge tide of popular sentiment against them, and they are going to bus in every thug, make every threat, slap every woman, punch every old guy, and beat up any kid they have to in order to make sure they can keep living like pigs on the public dollar.


God-fucking-dammit.

This is not about some "mafioso" union crime bosses. This is about a Republican governor and Republican senators eliminating by fiat collective bargaining.

Collective bargaining! The heart and soul of the only protection and means of progress that the laboring class has ever known in the history of the human race.

From wikipedia: Collective bargaining is a process of negotiations between employers and the representatives of a unit of employees aimed at reaching agreements which regulate working conditions. Collective agreements usually set out wage scales, working hours, training, health and safety, overtime, grievance mechanisms and rights to participate in workplace or company affairs.

The unions acquiesced to Walker's salary demands. They acquiesced to his demand to contribute more to their health care. And yet, even as they acquiesced to the financial aspects of Walker's plan, this still wasn't enough. The Republicans voted to eliminate nearly ALL collective bargaining rights.

Read the above definition of collective bargaining again. Do you really think it's moral to strip workers of the power to declare their workplace is unsafe without fear of retaliation or access to a grievance system that protects them from unfair discipline or termination, or any of a thousand other issues that infringe on basic human rights?

Collective bargaining means far more than just wage negotiations. It is the means by which ordinary workers across a broad range of careers have any leverage to stand up to enormous government and corporate entities (which in this day and age are nearly the same thing thanks to people like the Koch brothers who are funding Walker's criminality) that can and do exploit them in any way that is not strictly prohibited by law.

This is class warfare.

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