Dr. Laura has a Ph.D. in physiology, not psychology.
Dr. Michael "Savage" Weiner has one in nutritional ethnomedicine.

My thoughts exactly (in the video).

I think I speak for many when I say, WTF is nutritional ethnomedicine?

I have no idea, that's what Wikipedia says.

Oh, and the Bible says it's also an abomination to eat shrimp:
http://www.godhatesshrimp.com/

I wasn't expecting to enjoy this clip as much as I did.

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It was nice, because it's the dream setup and delivery. Love that link Theo - I didn't know God hated shrimp so much.

Three cheers for using the bible out of context.

Too bad it's that way for both sides.

I find this really lame. Sweeping music after a third-grade burn? Quoting tiny pieces of anything in no way indicates understanding of the whole - by either side.

I don't care if your conserative with a liberal president or liberal with a conservative president you stand when the president enters the room. Its a sign or respect towards the office not the person.
As far as the clip goes im with wallace, lame.

Is the entire internets stupid?

Sheen's president wasn't quoting Bible verses to show "understanding" of it; he was using it literally and out of context in the same way that Bible-bangers do to prove a point: that the Bible shouldn't be read literally to justify prejudices.

Footballs are no longer made from pigskin...

its not just the entire internets that are stupid, theo.

tribalism is looking to be the 21st century's downfall. when people don't 'believe' in global warming, or humanity's effects on biodiversity, etc., the non-stupids will only have themselves to blame for not understanding the stupids enough to convincingly make their point.

... oh, about Dr. Savage; nutritional ethnomedicine is shorthand for a person interested in old fashion medicines and botanical treatments from a specific culture. His PhD centered around the culture and ethnic medicines of Fiji. A strange PhD, but from a good school (Berkley).

Sheen's point was about taking it out of context - either accept that the bible is outdated and no longer relevant, or follow its rules properly. This is a scripted program so of course it's set up to make her the baddie (the person the preaching is aimed at is also the person showing a lack of respect by sitting and who has a dodgy claim to qualifications, how convenient).

I've never seen the Westboro Baptist Church (or other crusaders) respond to this argument. I'd like to read a coherent counter argument, I'm sure someone somewhere must have attempted to make one even if it smells of desperation.

Quboid,

As a semi-fundamentalist Christian I could probably make some kind of counter argument. But it would a) be very long , b) be very dull, and c) be likely uninspiring or unconvincing to anyone outside the church and possibly even to me as well, even though I am interested in and have tried to study theology non-formally. Needless to say, I don't things are quite as black and white as you do on this matter. Which is why the video was interesting to me, and why I posted it here.

Thank you theo - you got it exactly right!

Uhhhh... lemme jump in here to say this about that-bamdrews pulpit there refers to one of my favorite topics, Wobal Glorming- If you think that paying an inordinant amount of attention to any one aspect of the homosapien dance will profit the world...well, look at poor old Paul McCartney and the bozo HE married.

Look man, plain and simple,mother earth belches more toxic waste than any of us will ever!!!! Does this not compute???

Otherwise, there is no doubt that we fuck up biodiversity every time we turn around-But....here we are, at the beginning of a new day and we can all still breathe, Jesus has not come back, we did not destroy the planet with nukaler bombs-Enjoy the day, god, its gorgeous here....as in , WHAT THE F...K CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT WITHOUT DOING AWAY WITH ALL OUR TOYS AND EMBRACING THE POLITICS OF NOMADIC HEARDERS AND FARMERS???

Sorry folks, I do tend to carry myself away.

for all you dreamers, there is always the Unabomber's Manifesto......

choggie, what the hell are you talking about?
nothing you said makes sense... hold on let me capitalize that:
NOTHING YOU SAID MAKES SENSE

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I think Choggle might actually be the Unabomber.

I love how some apologists on here talk about the prez taking the bible out of context in that clip... and exactly what is the proper context for any of ridiculous rules of the old testament that usually involve death as the punishment ?
religion is a farce, especially the christian religion.
I wish people would use their critical thinking skills on religion as they do everythign else in their life.
the following articles shed a much needed light on the absurdities of the bible

CHALLENGE TO CHRISTIANS (to make sense of the absurditiy that is the gospels)
http://ffrf.org/books/lfif/stone.php

learn of all the innocent women and children god kills throughout the bible
http://archetype-productions.com/nfo/religion/Loving-God.doc

the bible is NOT PRO LIFE
http://ffrf.org/nontracts/abortion.php

learn about the many different versions of the 10 commandments ?
http://archetype-productions.com/nfo/religion/10-commandments-debunked.doc
http://archetype-productions.com/nfo/religion/10-commandments-discussed.doc
http://archetype-productions.com/nfo/religion/10-commandments.doc
http://archetype-productions.com/nfo/religion/The-Real-Ten-Commandments-carrier.doc

for a much deeper understanding of the biblical text, please visit the forums on www.infidels.org
or go to http://www.au.org/ to learn more about what you can do to help promote the separation fo church and state.

Well if infidels.org can prove there is no God like Homer's flat tax proposal then let me know.

http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=14325

I love Vids like this because they usually start a lot of posting and commenting regarding religeon (btw qruel, thanks for the links). It tends to be my favorite for some reason. Odd, I always hated it as a kid...

" I don't care if your conserative with a liberal president or liberal with a conservative president you stand when the president enters the room. Its a sign or respect towards the office not the person."

What if you're physically unable to stand?

thx Zeth
that Homer simpson flat tax video is hilarious.

I think some of you missed my point. Using Leviticus as a reason to disbelieve in Christianity is absurd. Did you read any of the New Testament?

And I figure I'll throw this in there as well. People get a lot of mileage out of berating Christians for having a holier-than-thou attitude (which, I admit, some of them do, but they're missing the point). Being a Christian is most definitely not about thinking you're perfect. It's really about recognizing that you're flawed and a sinner and that God's grace means it's okay. Being condescending is missing the point and if the ultra-conservative Christians could get that figured out they wouldn't be so demonized.

Anyway...

People here are right. You're going to believe what you want no matter what anyone else tells you.

The very simplified explanation is this. Assuming the bible is a literal account as fundamentalist Christians (like me) do, when Jesus came, he superseded the old way of doing things (Matthew 26:28).

The rules in place for the "Book of the Law" Leviticus were for a time when the entire nation of Isreal were to follow one faith and god,not take a pick and mix approach.

The reason the old testament is kept in the bible cannon is there is still a great many valuable lessons to be learned from the examples of the past. The "rules" as it stands today however are as set out by the only designated authority that's interacted with us, the Son of God.

Believe what you want. But I can say for a fact I don't speak as an authority on what neurosurgeons believe to be fact based on a clip I saw on the sift. Don't use fractal knowledge to write off a whole section of people~

While there are elements of truth in what you say, Akujin, the clip is quite clear in calling out fundamentalists who quote certain parts of the Bible, but conveniently ignore others:

"I don't call homosexuality an abomination -- the Bible does."

I know fundamentalist Christians who use this kind of logic to justify homosexuality as a sin. The Bible says any number of things, and any non-Christian could easily sift out which sections are life lessons and which sections should be understood as outdated mores, like eating cooked pork.

So there isn't summary judgement from me against all Christians, or even agasint fundamentalist Christians, just against the ones who quote ancient and obsolete texts in an enlightened world.

This is my dream too, that the only liberals in or near the White House be imaginary TV liberals, so very unlike the last real liberal Prez, busily masturbating in the sinks and wasting cigars.

Yeah, the Bible promoted slavery, and it was Christian abolitionists who ended it in England and America.

I think this clip shows how literal translation can be absurd, even the vatican frowns upon it( I think)!

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