Apparently their sister was involved in beating them as well.

I wonder if those who were responsible realize the love for their God is instead the catalyst to bring actual, physical demons to our world through their actions.

Because I doubt any evil they were afraid their youths were perpetrating doesn't even compare to the evil of a group of adults torturing young men.

'Bring your child to church day'

Everybody's talking about "gun control." When the fuck are we gonna start talking about "religion control?" I see far more harm being done in the world in the name of religion than because of crazies with guns.

That's because I never suggested an either/or connection.

You did imply one though.

I did not. You may have inferred one, but I did not imply one.

On the contrary, in fact. I said that while we are talking about one, why are we not also talking about the other? Not sure what could have given you the impression that it was anything more than that.

You may choose to impart any hidden meaning you wish in order to furnish whatever paranoid perspective you have with ill-conceived evidence, but that's your choice and your fallacy. I won't try to convince you otherwise.

You did state you felt religion was creating "far more harm" than guns. That's an implicit statement that less should be done about guns and more about religion. That guns aren't as important.

From further comments, it's obvious you didn't mean it that way, but that's how it looked.

The intent was more to suggest that religion gets a free pass, because everyone is so fucking afraid to offend people's crybaby sensitivities. Like, look how much bullshit we keep hearing about, and the irreparable damage that's doubtless being done to countless of our youth, all the crazy tax breaks from the scam artists, etc., and nobody wants to raise the question asking what the fuck is going on in the religious communities. Everyone's fine talking about guns, but they shy away from this brainwashed bullshit. It's fucking retarded.

I feel like you might have made the point better by comparing our treatment of terrorism, which is more outrageous laws and regulations over far less danger....but really you didn't need to compare it to anything.
I agree with your sentiment about religion (except the part where you imply that NO ONE is questioning religious communities' activities, I have done so my entire life with all religions), but I also read your comment as a slap at gun control, whether you meant it that way or not.

Also, please note, not everyone is fine talking about guns...there's one party that wishes we would never mention them again and just keep the status quo, and another party that wishes we would have SOME real regulations about who can purchase them and where one can take them. That makes almost 1/2 of us that don't want to talk guns, and almost 1/2 that insist we must talk guns.

(CNN)The fatal beating of Lucas Leonard in the sanctuary of Word of Life Christian Church came after the teenager had "expressed a desire to leave" the secretive upstate New York church, New Hartford Police Chief Michael Inserra said Friday.