Trump Impeached

I'm still voting for an impeached precedent.
newtboysays...

This isn't satirical, it's accurate. Republicans who aren't this brainwashed are being purged from the party.

Russia is winning....just a few days ago they admitted on state run tv that Trump is their agent, just like Yanukovych, and joked that his apartment in Bakovka (a town in Russia where Yanukovych is most likely hiding) is being prepared. He's done his job for them, dividing the country more than even they thought possible.
*quality impersonation of a magat.

geo321says...

heard a great analysis from a lawyer a while back in that she said there is a flaw in the US constitution. In that it doesn't have a failsaif against a party acting and voting for themselves as a corrupt block

greatgooglymooglysays...

Reminder, Trump isn't impeached yet, the charges have not been given to the Senate. Who knows if/when they will, Democrats are too busy playing games.

PS. I swear to god this guy reminds me of Donnie Baker

newtboysays...

One wonders if Trump saw the same analysis and decided to test the hypothesis.

geo321said:

heard a great analysis from a lawyer a while back in that she said there is a flaw in the US constitution. In that it doesn't have a failsaif against a party acting and voting for themselves as a corrupt block

geo321says...

Russia is a horrible regime. Putin is an oligarch looking over lesser oligarchs. But @newtboy if you believe that cunt is controlling everything then you have eaten a massive meal of propaganda.

geo321says...

Very convenient to have another red scare now. A communist scare again to have an enemy that fits with the ideology of building more weapons

geo321says...

why are we overthrowing democracies and replacing them with fascist dictatorships again? Sorry Bolivia, Hondorus, Haiti. Your self determination does not count with our imperial projection.

newtboysays...

He doesn't have to control much, just be in a position to throw a monkey wrench in the works when it suits him best. I believe that's where he sits. Not so much a puppet master, but a mastermind at getting Americans to hate each other by proxy, just by helping install a monster in the seat of power, and more so by helping deify him to his followers.

If you don't believe Russia interfered in 2016 on Trump's side in hopes of gaining maybe 1/2 the advantages it's earned them, I think you are swallowing propaganda yourself.

geo321said:

Russia is a horrible regime. Putin is an oligarch looking over lesser oligarchs. But @newtboy if you believe that cunt is controlling everything then you have eaten a massive meal of propaganda.

geo321says...

Having people cozy up to the same old imperial institutions is a failure for liberals. You think the CIA and FBI are going to fight for democracy or human rights? lol
Damn, the overton window has moved so far that people are willing to accept anything or any war criminal as long as they are against Trump

geo321says...

No doubt Russia is and has been trying to create ideological chaos. But you are discounting the larger factors at home I think.

newtboysaid:

He doesn't have to control much, just be in a position to throw a monkey wrench in the works when it suits him best. I believe that's where he sits. Not so much a puppet master, but a mastermind at getting Americans to hate each other by proxy, just by helping install a monster in the seat of power, and more so by helping deify him to his followers.

If you don't believe Russia interfered in 2016 on Trump's side in hopes of gaining maybe 1/2 the advantages it's earned them, I think you are swallowing propaganda yourself.

geo321says...

it wasn't the Russians that leaked to Wikileaks that the Clinton campaign rigged the election campaign, it was an internal staffer that was pissed in 2016. The second so called hack of Podesta's emails by fishing by G2 we dont know the origin yet. but we do know the first leak in the election to wikileaks came from a staffer in the DNC to report on rigging.

geo321says...

Think of the larger picture and historical context that we are in. I am cynical and have no allegiances. Putin is a fucking war criminal that keeps rigging Russian elections to favor oligarchs that are loyal to him.

geo321says...

The US has legalized so much corruption internally with corporate funding, that dwarfs any influence the Russians could do.

geo321says...

Remember when the US unions purged all communists and hardcore activists from the AFLCIO? 20% of their members under Macarthism purged successfully. Unions in the US never recovered. Because of a bad ideology against a non existant communism threat. Now people are falling for that bullshit again and ignoring the more obvious imperial ambitions

bobknight33says...

It only took 3 years for Dems to find a reason for impeachment articles . The thinnest of reasons with no proof. Only a difference of ideology feeds their blood thrust to remove this man.

No running, no Putin link no nothing just a big waste of Americans time.

I, personally love it. Trump has won the battle. Democrats across the land are fed up and will switch party or just sit out the 2020 election.

All for what? This now goes to the Senate. For what? Republican control and this will no pass/ convict. Just a wast of Americans time.

newtboysays...

Please don't misconstrue my abhorrence of today's republican party as an endorsement of the democratic party....but there's no question which is worse imo. I've said for decades that I would vote republican if only they would. I didn't leave the republican party, it left me.

'They weren't the only ones sticking it to democrats' isn't an argument, defense, or excuse...it's a dodge imo. Americans are allowed to participate in political propaganda (if they do it legally), other nations aren't. Russian intelligence hacked democrats at Trump's public request to help him. Period.

As for who is G2, "Working off the IP address, U.S. investigators identified Guccifer 2.0 as a particular GRU officer working out of the agency’s headquarters on Grizodubovoy Street in Moscow."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-lone-dnc-hacker-guccifer-20-slipped-up-and-revealed-he-was-a-russian-intelligence-officer?ref=scroll

https://www.businessinsider.com/dnc-hacker-guccifer-confirmed-as-russian-agent-after-forgetting-to-conceal-identity-2018-3

I totally agree citizens United (i mean the court ruling bearing that name) put a poison pill in all of our political cups. I would support any candidate who I believed would make a constitutional amendment fixing that priority one, for any and every office high to low. Sadly i don't know of one from any party.
Selling our political system to corporations and billionaires can only end in it's demise.

geo321said:

it wasn't the Russians that leaked to Wikileaks that the Clinton campaign rigged the election campaign, it was an internal staffer that was pissed in 2016. The second so called hack of Podesta's emails by fishing by G2 we dont know the origin yet. but we do know the first leak in the election to wikileaks came from a staffer in the DNC to report on rigging.

newtboysays...

They absolutely should have included charity fraud, a crime which he already admitted to under oath. I fully agree. Then he's trapped because if he claims it's not true, he committed perjury.

As for democrats being fed up, you've been claiming that since day one, but how did those red tsunamis work out for you? Hate to tell you, but there are far more Republican walkaways happening than Democratic.

Agreed, Republicans bragging that they'll shirk their constitutional duties makes our system nonfunctional, but not a waste of time any more than prosecuting the governor's son for raping children would be, even though the governor vowed to pardon him.

bobknight33said:

It only took 3 years for Dems to find a reason for impeachment articles . The thinnest of reasons with no proof. Only a difference of ideology feeds their blood thrust to remove this man.

No running, no Putin link no nothing just a big waste of Americans time.

I, personally love it. Trump has won the battle. Democrats across the land are fed up and will switch party or just sit out the 2020 election.

All for what? This now goes to the Senate. For what? Republican control and this will no pass/ convict. Just a wast of Americans time.

geo321says...

All good points. I think you are right. I should say that what I believe is that Canada(my gov) and the US overthrows governments for their interests over and over. That is the narrative I see things. Maybe you are right about me minimizing Russia.

newtboysaid:

Please don't misconstrue my abhorrence of today's republican party as an endorsement of the democratic party....but there's no question which is worse imo. I've said for decades that I would vote republican if only they would. I didn't leave the republican party, it left me.

'They weren't the only ones sticking it to democrats' isn't an argument, defense, or excuse...it's a dodge imo. Americans are allowed to participate in political propaganda (if they do it legally), other nations aren't. Russian intelligence hacked democrats at Trump's public request to help him. Period.

As for who is G2, "Working off the IP address, U.S. investigators identified Guccifer 2.0 as a particular GRU officer working out of the agency’s headquarters on Grizodubovoy Street in Moscow."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-lone-dnc-hacker-guccifer-20-slipped-up-and-revealed-he-was-a-russian-intelligence-officer?ref=scroll

https://www.businessinsider.com/dnc-hacker-guccifer-confirmed-as-russian-agent-after-forgetting-to-conceal-identity-2018-3

I totally agree citizens United (i mean the court ruling bearing that name) put a poison pill in all of our political cups. I would support any candidate who I believed would make a constitutional amendment fixing that priority one, for any and every office high to low. Sadly i don't know of one from any party.
Selling our political system to corporations and billionaires can only end in it's demise.

newtboysays...

Agreed, the U.S. complaining about Russia interfering in other countries elections is totally the pot calling the kettle black. I would prefer we do less of it rather than allow others to do more.

geo321said:

All good points. I think you are right. I should say that what I believe is that Canada(my gov) and the US overthrows governments for their interests over and over. That is the narrative I see things. Maybe you are right about me minimizing Russia.

Drachen_Jagersays...

He's not intelligent enough.

He's just doing what he's always done. When caught, lie and count on your privilege as a rich white man to save you. In America it works, and he's hardly the only one getting by this way.

newtboysaid:

One wonders if Trump saw the same analysis and decided to test the hypothesis.

Mystic95Zsays...

Yes he is/has been impeached. Even if not convicted in the Senate he's still impeached just like Johnson and Clinton. It is forever a black stain.

greatgooglymooglysaid:

Reminder, Trump isn't impeached yet, the charges have not been given to the Senate. Who knows if/when they will, Democrats are too busy playing games.

PS. I swear to god this guy reminds me of Donnie Baker

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