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enochsays...*promote
siftbotsays...Promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Wednesday, December 31st, 2014 6:58am PST - promote requested by enoch.
oohlalasassoonsays...Yikes. Think I'll take my chances with an old fashioned EMT that knows WTF they're doing. I can see the promise of the fast response time, but I'm afraid that misdiagnosis by the caller could lead to f'ups. Defibrillation of someone having a seizure rather than a heart attack, for example, probably isn't recommended.
eric3579says...I thought the same thing but assumed that the pads they put on the patient was able to diagnose if it was a cardiac arrest (thanks @worthwords) and needed defibrillation. I cant imagine they would treat a patient without professional medical knowledge of the patients condition.
Yikes. Think I'll take my chances with an old fashioned EMT that knows WTF they're doing. I can see the promise of the fast response time, but I'm afraid that misdiagnosis by the caller could lead to f'ups. Defibrillation of someone having a seizure rather than a heart attack, for example, probably isn't recommended.
bobknight33says...This could also bring a pulse oximeter and ECG with the defibrillator,
The strip chart would easily indicate if an heart attach occurred or is occurring.
What you really need a self monitoring device with an imbedded defibrillator that also notifies EMT with you GPS.
I thought the same thing but assumed that the pads they put on the patient was able to diagnose if it was a heart attack and needed defibrillation. I cant imagine they would treat a patient without professional medical knowledge of the patients condition.
newtboysays...They make these now, don't they? I thought you can already buy a monitoring bracelet that connects to your I-phone, the rest should be easy, no?
EDIT: Oh, except for the self defibrillator...I missed that part.
What you really need a self monitoring device with an imbedded defibrillator that also notifies EMT with you GPS.
bobknight33says...How can we piss each other off in 1 video and agree on the other?
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They make these now, don't they? I thought you can already buy a monitoring bracelet that connects to your I-phone, the rest should be easy, no?
EDIT: Oh, except for the self defibrillator...I missed that part.
newtboysays...For one, I'm not pissed off at you and never was.
Disappointed, yes, pissed, no. Not even after your last insulting post on the other thread.
Internet comments/commenters aren't that important that one should be 'pissed off' about them. If you find that happening, you're taking it all too seriously IMO. Flustered, that's another story...but I admit that's still taking it too seriously.
...And really, you can't understand how to disagree on one topic and still be able to agree on another? I hope you're just being smarmy, and this isn't a real question...for your sake.
How can we piss each other off in 1 video and agree on the other?
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worthwordssays...Just to clarify terminology. Heart attack is not the same as cardiac arrest.
Basically a heart attack is when the arteries to the heart become occluded causing chest pain and (as time goes by) cardiac muscle damage.
A cardiac arrest is where the heart is unable to pump blood to supply the brain causing a loss of consciousness. Cardiac arrest can be caused by arrhythmias, large blood clots in the lung and also heart attacks where either a large part of the heart is infarcted or because an arrhythmia develops secondary to infecting an important conducive pathway in the heart.
The majority of heart attacks cause chest pain and no loss of consciousness but the ones that do cause LOC have a poor survival rate.
When someone collapses like this you have no idea what the cause is but if they are not breathing then you should call for help and start CPR immediately.
Defibrillators are found on tube stations, supermarkets etc and are designed for members of the public to use - they talk you through the steps.
The pads analyse the rhythm of the heart to see if it's a 'shockable' rhythm. If it's not then no shock will be delivered which is why it's essential that CPR has been started and is maintained until help arrives.
A common misconception (in tv/movies) is that a 'flat line' can be shocked back into a normal rhythm when in fact if the defibrillator reads a 'flat line'( technical term asystole) then it will not initiate a shock.
newtboysays...Excellent post. I had no idea about the difference.
Just to clarify terminology. Heart attack is not the same as cardiac arrest.
Basically a heart attack is when the arteries to the heart become occluded causing chest pain and (as time goes by) cardiac muscle damage.
A cardiac arrest is where the heart is unable to pump blood to supply the brain causing a loss of consciousness. Cardiac arrest can be caused by arrhythmias, large blood clots in the lung and also heart attacks where either a large part of the heart is infarcted or because an arrhythmia develops secondary to infecting an important conducive pathway in the heart.
The majority of heart attacks cause chest pain and no loss of consciousness but the ones that do cause LOC have a poor survival rate.
When someone collapses like this you have no idea what the cause is but if they are not breathing then you should call for help and start CPR immediately.
Defibrillators are found on tube stations, supermarkets etc and are designed for members of the public to use - they talk you through the steps.
The pads analyse the rhythm of the heart to see if it's a 'shockable' rhythm. If it's not then no shock will be delivered which is why it's essential that CPR has been started and is maintained until help arrives.
A common misconception (in tv/movies) is that a 'flat line' can be shocked back into a normal rhythm when in fact if the defibrillator reads a 'flat line'( technical term asystole) then it will not initiate a shock.
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