Surprise! I'm pregnant!

Well he'll never live that down.
Paybacksays...

If more people thought of what accidental pregnancy does to people's lives (I include the new baby), this would be EVERYONES reaction...

Esoogsays...

I love the term "accidental pregnancy". Come on, its no accident. By now, we should all know how it happens.

(yeah, I'll give you the rare birth control failure...but that's the extreme).

moduloussays...

So you dislike the term accident?

I mean, if I have a car accident, would you say you love that term too? We know how car accidents happen, after all.

Or maybe it means 'unplanned'. I didn't plan on hitting that car, I didn't intend for my gamete to meet hers and successfully fuse and implant. I know that crashing, and pregnancy, are risks when I drive/fuck but that doesn't mean I intended for the risks to manifest at this particular moment in life.

And birth control failures are not extreme. They happen with alarming regularity (though they almost never result in pregnancies, much like actual sex). However - a woman who relies solely on male condoms for birth control has a 2% chance of getting pregnant that year (assuming average sex life). Hardly extreme stuff. 2 in every 100 sexually active women, fertile women who rely on condoms alone will get pregnant every year. It's between 1 in a 1000 to 1 in 100 for the contraceptive pill. Given how many people are having sex - this is not a rare thing.

Esoogsaid:

I love the term "accidental pregnancy". Come on, its no accident. By now, we should all know how it happens.

(yeah, I'll give you the rare birth control failure...but that's the extreme).

newtboysays...

You forgot vasectomies. They are near 100% effective...but only if you 1)wait after the surgery, because there's still sperm in the system for a while, and 2) go back to the doctor to get tested to be SURE your vas deferens didn't heal together, which happens in a few percent of cases. Once you're sure it worked though, you're safe for life (from pregnancy).

I'm not sure the car analogy works....driving isn't intended to cause 'accidents' like sex is....unless you're a demolition derby driver, then OK, I'm with you.

moduloussaid:

So you dislike the term accident?

I mean, if I have a car accident, would you say you love that term too? We know how car accidents happen, after all.

Or maybe it means 'unplanned'. I didn't plan on hitting that car, I didn't intend for my gamete to meet hers and successfully fuse and implant. I know that crashing, and pregnancy, are risks when I drive/fuck but that doesn't mean I intended for the risks to manifest at this particular moment in life.

And birth control failures are not extreme. They happen with alarming regularity (though they almost never result in pregnancies, much like actual sex). However - a woman who relies solely on male condoms for birth control has a 2% chance of getting pregnant that year (assuming average sex life). Hardly extreme stuff. 2 in every 100 sexually active women, fertile women who rely on condoms alone will get pregnant every year. It's between 1 in a 1000 to 1 in 100 for the contraceptive pill. Given how many people are having sex - this is not a rare thing.

moduloussays...

There was a whole host of contraceptive methods that I didn't mention. That some methods are more effective than others doesn't stop the existence of accidental pregnancies. I hope nobody is coming here for contraceptive advice, but if they are I'll thank you for the additional information anyway. I wouldn't recommend a 19 year old male has a vasectomy under most circumstances, though, any more than I would a hysterectomy for a similarly aged woman.

Sex isn't 'designed' for anything at all. It's a verb. It is no more designed than 'driving' is (a reasonable argument may exist that it is less designed than driving). It has many functions, procreation isn't the only one (which is why sex seldom results in pregnancy even when intended (I think its about 0.3% to 1% effective at causing pregnancy per attempt). The analogy is not the thing, the important point is the linguistic parallel rather than the similarity of action. One of a car's purposes, as you hint at, is to collide with things. This is not the norm, but it exists - whether it is for science or entertainment. Also, some people buy cars so that they can crash them for insurance purposes. Thus, one can crash a car deliberately, or by accident. Like a pregnancy. The fact that the car was built in a factory and the body was built through billions of years of evolution is not important.

An accidental pregnancy is a socially useful label used to describe the phenomena when people who have sex get pregnant, though pregnancy was not the intent of their sex. It is in contrast to a planned pregnancy in which the couple intends, as one of the outcomes of the sex, to procreate.

newtboysaid:

You forgot vasectomies. They are near 100% effective...but only if you 1)wait after the surgery, because there's still sperm in the system for a while, and 2) go back to the doctor to get tested to be SURE your vas deferens didn't heal together, which happens in a few percent of cases. Once you're sure it worked though, you're safe for life (from pregnancy).

I'm not sure the car analogy works....driving isn't intended to cause 'accidents' like sex is....unless you're a demolition derby driver, then OK, I'm with you.

newtboysays...

I would suggest permanent infertility treatments for anyone that would do it...no matter what their age. There's no need for more babies, plenty are made by 'accident'. Anyone who can be talked into NOT making more people should be talked into that, they can always adopt if they change their minds, IMO.

That's why I put 'designed' between apostrophes, to indicate it's the wrong word.

Sex has EVOLVED for a purpose (or purposes). Cars are DESIGNED for a purpose. I think you know what I meant there.

If sex is done randomly, perhaps 1%, if done purposefully, with cycles, temperature, etc taken into account, it's much more 'successful' at causing pregnancy. (again, those apostrophes indicate 'success' may not be the right word for some, but is the one most people would use).

Because we're nit picking each other's wordings, the body was not "built". ;-)

Obviously, yes, that's what the terms indicate.

moduloussaid:

There was a whole host of contraceptive methods that I didn't mention. That some methods are more effective than others doesn't stop the existence of accidental pregnancies. I hope nobody is coming here for contraceptive advice, but if they are I'll thank you for the additional information anyway. I wouldn't recommend a 19 year old male has a vasectomy under most circumstances, though, any more than I would a hysterectomy for a similarly aged woman.

Sex isn't 'designed' for anything at all. It's a verb. It is no more designed than 'driving' is (a reasonable argument may exist that it is less designed than driving). It has many functions, procreation isn't the only one (which is why sex seldom results in pregnancy even when intended (I think its about 0.3% to 1% effective at causing pregnancy per attempt). The analogy is not the thing, the important point is the linguistic parallel rather than the similarity of action. One of a car's purposes, as you hint at, is to collide with things. This is not the norm, but it exists - whether it is for science or entertainment. Also, some people buy cars so that they can crash them for insurance purposes. Thus, one can crash a car deliberately, or by accident. Like a pregnancy. The fact that the car was built in a factory and the body was built through billions of years of evolution is not important.

An accidental pregnancy is a socially useful label used to describe the phenomena when people who have sex get pregnant, though pregnancy was not the intent of their sex. It is in contrast to a planned pregnancy in which the couple intends, as one of the outcomes of the sex, to procreate.

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