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no problem, nice sift.

I really should get around to looking up scientology on wiki to see what they REALLY actually believe. But yeah, great sift, 5*'s for you.

enon...

If you look it up you'll find this is disturbingly accurate.

...this is only the tip of the iceberg as far as Scientology the criminal cult is concerned. Bunch of quacks.

Enon... That IS what they believe! I'm not making this @#$! up. With the exception of the DC-10 thing, that is the basis of Scientology and their alternative to psychiatry. Balancing the alien spirits within you and you will be cured of schizophrenia, depression, homosexuality (<-- rumored to be why Tom Cruise joined), etc.

Nope, the DC-10 thing is also what they believe.

Ok, I can respect the beliefs of almost any religion. But Scientology I really can't understand how people buy into it. Or maybe I'm just in denial that I came to earth in a DC-8 and can't find my way past the soul collectors.

it's just as provable as atheism

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Looking up scientology on the internet is like going to Iran for an unbiased opinion of the Holoucaust. You can fnd anything on the internet: aliens, the mystery of the Bermuda Triangle, Atlantis, etc. A lot of spectacular things have been said about scientology, but the people saying them have never read their books or bother to quote them. BVuy a Scientology book about something you are interested in and read it. If it's bunk then take it back or donate it to the library.

i.e. Don't listen to what others are saying - read our propaganda without references. Sorry, but the only reason the "church" detest the internet is because it hasn't been able to shut down all the information there. Yet.

I suggest http://www.xenu.net/ as a first stop if you're looking for info about scientology.

The internet is a great place to trash something anonymously. It is especially cool when the poster has no real life experience or knowledge of that which they are denouncing.

Don't buy in to all this negative bunk about Scientology. Read a Scientology book and find out the TRUTH for yourself. All these naysayers have a pitch. It is actually a very cool, practical, and reasonable religion.

You can disabuse yourself of the bad PR Scientology has gotten by simply finding a book in Scientology that your are interested in and reading about it.

"Buy a scientology book"?

How typical of Scientologist. Your whole religion is based on buying books, auditing and suppressing any dissenting voices, even those that leave the Church of Scientology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_beliefs_and_practices

PS: My Thetans are all fine.

Sofabutt are you a Scientology infiltrator?
Looking through all the videos about Scientology on the Sift one finds that it's an evil and shadowy organization.
Most of the mainstream media also isn't positive about Scientology. An example is this story, where Scientology has a 64 year old engineer jailed for picketing their "church".

I said it before and I'll say it again, I despise Scientology with a passion rivaled only by the heat of a thousand suns.

I despise Scientology as much as the next guy, but I'd like to point out that most of the negative stuff about it comes from the behavior and actions of the Church of Scientology. They're the ones who use deceptive and arrogant tactics. But as a religion, hey, we're all free to believe what we wish.

It's easy to object to Mormonism as well, but note that a lot of the bad stuff about Mormonism (polygamy, killing people) was dictated by the church itself, which has fortunately toned things down in recent years.

And one could do the same towards the Muslim religion, but it's really the more extremist sects of the Nation of Islam that believe that they must go out and kill all the infidels.

And don't think that atheists are blameless. They've done their share of persecuting those with religious beliefs.

All in all, it's not necessarily the entire religion itself that does the "bad" stuff, but rather the extremist parts of it. So don't be too quick to condemn someone for their beliefs when their actions and choices may not be so negative after all.

It's because of religions like Scientology that make people forget just how unbelievable something like a virgin birth is...I mean c'mon!

Oh great Hubbard, please rid these humble sifters of their theetans, for they know not what they say.

For the Scientology side of the story, watch their orientation video: http://www.videosift.com/video/Scientology-Orientation-Video-watch-it-while-you-can

> If it's bunk then take it back or donate it to the library.

And run the chance of F#%^king up some strangers life...

sure it's bizarro but...
no less fantastic than the outlandish tales told by all of the established "major" religions.
And for the Disciples of Dawkins, is it any less kooky than n-dimensional quantum physics or string theory?

> is it any less kooky than n-dimensional quantum physics or string theory

No, it's far more kooky than either and so different as to be incomparable.

I'm sorry Sylvester_Ink, but I'm a former Mormon (AKA LDS)and nowhere in the history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints there are no random acts of murder or violence committed in the name of the religion. There are many random acts of murder and martyrdom against the religion though (if you have ever heard of Joseph Smith you will know what I'm talking about).

And once the State (or maybe country) outlawed polygamy the church also outlawed it. Also people commonly mistaken the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints as the same religion (RLDS, which does practice polygamy illegally, the name Warren Jeffs comes to mind (fucking psycho)), but they are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, and the RLDS church no longer even recognizes the Book or Mormon anymore, and the two religions are not even associated at all, EVER. Please do your homework before you bash any religion again.

As far as Scientology goes, they are fucked up, and i have done my homework on them. Just remember the last lines of this video: http://www.videosift.com/video/Scientology-Orientation-Video-watch-it-while-you-can "...or you can jump off a bridge or blow your brains out." What kind of religion would tell people to do that or join their church!? It's fucking ridiculous! Scientology is more like a Tax Exempt corporation because you have to buy the e-meter readings and buy the books to "move up" in their church.

Now don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying that all Mormons, or even Mormons in general took these actions or condoned them. But some groups did do these things. (Namely, Mormon fundamentalists.)

My point in that post was that sometimes certain religious leaders lead their people poorly and give a poor example of their church beliefs. However, this should not be taken as a representation of the religion itself. In other words, don't condemn people who believe in Scientology (or dare I say, have been hoodwinked into believing in Scientology) for the actions of the Church of Scientology itself. It's the organization that is responsible for the horrible things referenced in the movie.

The same goes for Mormonism. People who have called themselves Mormons have done horrid things in the past (and some in present day), mostly under guidance of their leaders. However, as you pointed out, these people are not following the principles of Mormonism, but their own misguided interpretation.

I myself am Christian, and I am more than ready to admit that there have been those that call themselves Christians that have done just the same. The Spanish Inquisition is an apt example. However, Christianity should not be defined by what was done during the Inquisition, by those who certainly weren't following Christian beliefs.

Looking on Videosift, you can see all kinds of examples of how Christians are "those wacky, crazy, insane right-wing nutjobs," such as clips from the movie Jesus Camp. But I assure you those are not examples of what all Christians are like. The same goes for saying that all Mormons are polygamists and murderers, and that all Scientologists are there to manipulate the government and financial districts.

In short, I'm on your side here. And please don't make the assumption that I haven't researched deeply into the religions I've set as examples. Other than Christianity, the religions I've most studied are Scientology, Mormonism, and the Muslim religion. (Not with any devout curiosity, I'm afraid. Merely for knowledge.) That's not to say I know everything about them, but I know enough to make a point.

Hopefully that clears things up.

"if you have ever heard of Joseph Smith you will know what I'm talking about)."

Joseph smith sold a plan to work for him. It developed, as all desperate mob scenarios may, into either decay, or fruition.... Frition of the Mormons in 2007 means, that the empire they created, justifies, the absolute, and unequivicable bullshit that is is, by her sheer size and scope

same with Hubbard's little empire.....he left another
shit- stain/blessing, for this paradigms' crap shoot, and for the delight of their lambasters, bufooners, and critics.....Call it a cosmic joke, or the unwilling hoards' program, to elude consciousness' cry,
"Human beings PLEASE!! Can you please pull your head out of that elephant's ass!!???"

"Take the M, out the middle, and whaddya get??? MORoooooON! Or as bugs would say, a Pepsi-ownin', blonde wife-havin, undergarment-wearin', travelin'-by-twos', Ultramaroon!

Some interesting articles:


http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/time.htm

http://www.hollywoodinterrupted.com/archives/ebner_undercover_scientology_spy_magazine_1996.phtml

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/9363363/inside_scientology

The first time I saw this I laughed until I cried. This exactly how I pictured the Scientology origin when I first read about it. Great video!

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