Patrick Stewart on domestic violence and being awesome.

What a guy.
RFlaggsays...

My que was full when I had a chance to sift it, and I forgot about it once my que had room agian. Glad to see it got Sifted. I think it was the story about his father and realizing his father had PTSD that made it worth it.

Lannsays...

Man, this comment is naive.

Domestic abuse happens very regularly in the western world and there are still some that do try to justify it. It may be that most of the population against it, but what good is that going to do if no one actually does anything about it?

lantern53said:

Aren't most people against violence against women? How many brutes are fans of Star Trek?

Tell it to the muslims, they seem to have a problem dealing with women.

gwiz665says...

There's likely domestic abuse going on right now within 3 miles of where you live. Probably even from the most upstanding citizen, who pays his taxes and goes to church every sunday.

It happens everywhere, not just in sand country.

lantern53said:

Aren't most people against violence against women? How many brutes are fans of Star Trek?

Tell it to the muslims, they seem to have a problem dealing with women.

Argsays...

Indeed, and half of it will be committed by a woman against a man. There is a presumption in our culture that domestic violence is committed by men against women when, in fact, it is committed by *people* against other people. Lets not perpetuate the myth that men are evil, violent thugs who deserve a pat on the head if they manage to suppress their biological urges and get through the day without beating up their partners, and women are sweet angelic creatures who couldn't possibly hurt another living being.
http://www.batteredmen.com/straus21.htm
http://divorcesupport.about.com/od/abusiverelationships/a/male_abuse.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence

gwiz665said:

There's likely domestic abuse going on right now within 3 miles of where you live. Probably even from the most upstanding citizen, who pays his taxes and goes to church every sunday.

It happens everywhere, not just in sand country.

grintersays...

Absolutely, men are abused, and absolutely that fact needs much more attention, but the situation for men and that for women is not the same. On average, men are stronger, which gives them a kind of power in a relationship that most women do not have. When we focus on domestic violence perpetrated by men, we are mainly focusing on acts that stem from that power. That is a fundamental and Important part of the reality, and lumping all discussion of domestic abuse into the same gender-free pile would do a disservice to our understanding of the topic.
You imply that because there are other evils in the world, that this one should receive less attention than it does. That's not the case. What the captain was saying shouldn't be tempered; if anything should be amplified. Violence and other abuse perpetrated by women against men deserves special focus As Well. If you find a good video about that, I'll happily promote it.

Argsaid:

Indeed, and half of it will be committed by a woman against a man. There is a presumption in our culture that domestic violence is committed by men against women when, in fact, it is committed by *people* against other people. Lets not perpetuate the myth that men are evil, violent thugs who deserve a pat on the head if they manage to suppress their biological urges and get through the day without beating up their partners, and women are sweet angelic creatures who couldn't possibly hurt another living being.
http://www.batteredmen.com/straus21.htm
http://divorcesupport.about.com/od/abusiverelationships/a/male_abuse.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence

shinyblurrysays...

What Patrick talks about is a real problem and men are primarily the instigators of this violence, though of course not all of it. There was domestic violence in my home and we did stay in some of those shelters that Patrick described. They were safe but they are not a long term solution. What I've learned is that ultimately, the woman has to choose to leave the situation and this can be a very difficult decision for them to make.

For instance, some may have been conditioned over the course of many years of psychological abuse to believe they are worthless and incapable of making it on their own. They may believe that they actually deserve the abuse. Of course, there are also the financial considerations, especially if there are children involved and the woman has no means of making a decent wage. There are many factors which may converge to keep the victim from making the right decision.

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