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This is fantastic - hooray for the AP guy with the guts to call bullshit on this.

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AP reporters should stay on the floor, where they belong...

Olbermann is a twit, which is why no one ever sees his stuff except on sites like this.

Media ought to challenge false statements by authority figures rather than credulously delivering the party line like xinhua.

Ok - let's just take Romney at his word for the sake of argument. Even if what he said was COMPLETELY TRUE, isn't it just a bit disingenuous to make this claim, "I don't have lobbyists running my campaign" and not disclose the fact that he has prominent "advisors" that are in fact lobbyists?

In fact, just before the AP guy interjects, Romney is midphrase saying "I don't have lobbyists tied to my-". Just what was he going to say? If an "advisor" is not "tied to" your campaign then who the hell is?

Bullshit indeed.

I totally agree davido53. When candidates state complete falsehoods or misleading statements, I want the press to roll over and accept their statements, answers, and even restaurant choices as near divine that should never be questioned.

Doesn't the professional way a reporter should act include asking questions and trying to point out discrepancies?

The reporter was right to call him on it, he's received more money from lobbyists than all but one repub candidate and more endorsements from them than any of them. To try to make is sound as if they have no influence over him is disingenuous.

Now they just need to jump Hillary for it as well to be fair about it, she's got more endorsements and money from them than any other candidate, dem or repub, if one of them is in the news for it then both should be.

From the reporter in question.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2008/01/17/romney_criticizes_campaign_lobbyists_despite_having_some_as_senior_staff_and_top_ad
visers/

The Nation
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?bid=45&pid=272128

And the following links to both Roll Call and Open Secrets for sourcing on the donations/endorsements. Clinton seems to draw the most support from the lobbies for the dems, him for the repubs, good part of why I'm not fond of either. I'm not convinced they'll work for us.
http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/B123D06E-1098-4DE0-A423-E3FBFDCC4E31/

but Mit, what about the Office Supply Lobby?

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Invocations (lies) cannot be called by xxovercastxx because xxovercastxx is not privileged - sorry.

Why would you want to call "lies" when nobody here knows if it really is a lie or not.

As they say in Spain, "no alimente los trolls"

But I digress! The subject of the post is misleading language used repeatedly by a candidate; *lies

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It's the first time a reporter has spoken out in 7 years. Hooray! is the media coming back?

Holy fuck, did I just see an American reporter doing their job?

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"I think you're rude and ugly!" Pwned!
Yes, lady, I'm sure he went home and cried.

As of May 2006 Olbermann was doing pretty well for himself and his ratings have only improved since. From MediaWeek: "Third-place MSNBC saw its prime time audience jump 8 percent to 370,000, bolstered in part by the success of its Countdown with Keith Olbermann, which was the number two cable news program in the 8:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m. time slot in the 25-54 demo, behind O'Reilly. Olbermann averaged 419,000 total viewers on the month, and 156,000 in the news demo, an increase of 37 percent. Headline News' Nancy Grace took third in the demo at 8:00 p.m., averaging 150,000 25-54s, while CNN's Paula Zahn Now lost 41 percent of the demo, coming in fourth with 147,000."

All you have to do is keep repeating the lies. Put on a fake smile and repeat the lies to the cameras, that makes the news, not the truth.

>> ^QuadraPixel:
Why would you want to call "lies" when nobody here knows if it really is a lie or not.


If you want to play that angle, I can still say it's safe to assume one of them is lying; either Romney or the reporter.

^>> ^xxovercastxx:
>> ^QuadraPixel:
If you want to play that angle, I can still say it's safe to assume one of them is lying; either Romney or the reporter.

...or going to humorous lengths, to not have to tell, what would technically be a lie, while still maintaining that last shred of (nearly-)plausible deniability.

>> ^davido53:
AP reporters should stay on the floor, where they belong...
Olbermann is a twit, which is why no one ever sees his stuff except on sites like this.


I think this has set a record for most received downvotes ever. Is there an award for that?

Bravo, about time someone challenged the bs spewing from the mouths of candidates.

I would upvote if it wasn't on Olbermann's show. I have a hard time seeing him as any less biased than O'Reilly.

>> ^Aemaeth:
I would upvote if it wasn't on Olbermann's show. I have a hard time seeing him as any less biased than O'Reilly.

The AP reporter is not with Olbermann's show...he is just presenting the clip and commenting on it.

well done big guy in the glasses, and a big two fingered salute to any bystander that insults or calls down a guy for making a very reasoned argument in a non-rude or threatening manner

Wait, he lobbies for the lobbyists?

Jesus doesn't like people calling politicians out on the truth. I know so.. because he talks to me.

People who hear voices... are crazy.

People who talk to Jesus/God/Angels... are blessed.

and people who try to start religious arguments out of topics that have absolutely nothing to do with religion are jerks.

AP ++

Mitt --

"Don't be argumentative with the candidate"? Oh come on, why not, surely arguments, or discussions about what's true is what politics should be... not just sitting with your recorder grabbing sound bites.

I love his impersonation of the mentally challenged woman at the end. (yes she is, she doesn't understand calling out someone for saying a falsehood isn't rude, it's frankly required in today's political climate... and 'ugly'? That's mature.)

Thank you, AP guy. More of that please, everyone else in the major media.

but, there are no lobbyists "running his campaign".

romney should have stopped there. he was right.
my dad gives me very valuable advice but he is not "running my career".

but then he said "i don't have favours i have to repay". I call bullshit on that. for SURE.

anyway the journalist should have said "influencing" not "running"... or he should have had more backup that the "running" of the campaign was just a front for lobbyists.

Then, the journalist is told it's unprofessional to confront a public servant, and he doesn't call bullshit on that, he just thinks "oh shit, what am i getting into here, is this the best thing i ever did or the worst" and he panics and mumbles something.

So...

FAIL for both of you.

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