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BoneRemakeReplace my old rant with a question.
Has this group done something noticeable yet ? I mean a measurable change in something, another way to phrase it would be "have they done anything they said they would "
I am most ignorant on this group.
StormsingerI'm in more or less in the same boat, @BoneRemake. I get very mixed vibes about Anonymous...the arrogance of some of their diatribe is a bit hard to take, and I've seen no real evidence of any real influence. OTOH, I rather like some of the points they make.
I still think most of them are little more than 4chan script kiddies...no ethics and no real talent except running their mouths. But I guess I could be wrong. Just have to wait and see.
Tymbrwulf>> ^BoneRemake:
Replace my old rant with a question.
Has this group done something noticeable yet ? I mean a measurable change in something, another way to phrase it would be "have they done anything they said they would "
I am most ignorant on this group.
Small stuff like the arrest of Chris Forcand, world-wide protesting against Scientology(Project Chanology), created a website during the Iran protests along with Pirate Bay and other hackers to subvert censorship of news and happenings in Iran to Iranians, they helped Wikileaks set up mirrors around the world when everyone was trying to censor the leaks that were being released, they were instrumental in taking down the websites of the Tunisian, Egyptian, and Libyan governments during their respective protests, they destroyed HBGary's credibility(a company competing for a government contract to create false identities online in order to subvert political movements), they attempted to boycott Koch Industries products because of the Koch brothers' history of donating money to political groups that try and destroy the middle class, retaliated against Sony (completely disabling the Playstation Network for over a month) after they prosecuted a fellow named George Hotz for his work on developing open-source software on the Plastation 3, organized protests against BART officers who disabled cell phone service to attempt to disrupt protestors from assembling violently after a police shooting.
Here you can find some more information if you'd like to read about it. I've been following them for a while now and this seems to be relatively accurate.
@Stormsinger of course 99% of them are script kiddies, but that 1% has a terryfing knowledge of 0day exploits and computers and is extremely proficient in doing whatever the hell they want to do.
In my experience, these guys want one thing more than most:
1. Freedom of information
If anything gets in the way of that, they will do what they can to try and destroy it.
RyjkyjThe thing that most people have a hard time understanding about anonymous is that they're not an organized group. Anyone can really do anything under the name and give anonymous credit for it. That is why they are simultaneously non-threatening and yet scary, and especially unpredictable.
We seem to have this idea that revolutions (I'm not saying there is one going on) are always organized around a single, well thought out idea. But if you traveled back to the time of the American revolution, you wouldn't hear a bunch of people screaming "no taxation without representation!" Shit, 90% of the people were illiterate back then. Everyone would've had they're own idea, but all shared a common sort of "direction", or a desire for change.
I think that's what anonymous is. It's just a bunch of people who have a little bit in common.
honkeytonk73>> ^Ryjkyj:
The thing that most people have a hard time understanding about anonymous is that they're not an organized group. Anyone can really do anything under the name and give anonymous credit for it. That is why they are simultaneously non-threatening and yet scary, and especially unpredictable.
We seem to have this idea that revolutions (I'm not saying there is one going on) are always organized around a single, well thought out idea. But if you traveled back to the time of the American revolution, you wouldn't here a bunch of people screaming "no taxation without representation!", shit, 90% of the people were illiterate back then. Everyone would've had they're own idea, but all shared a common sort of "direction", or a need for change.
I think that's what anonymous is. It's just a bunch of people who have a little bit in common.
Quite well put. This is why the top 1% establishment fears them and tries to discredit and shut them down at every opportunity. The beast has no head to tie a noose around. It cannot be killed. They simply represent the grievances of the downtrodden, and that is a powerful force to reckon with. Arrest one, there are a 1000 more. They are not necessarily connected or related to each other, but are conscious of each others struggles. They are the common people. Young and old. Male and female. Agree with them or not, there are many and they won't simply go away by being ignored by the mass media. It will only fuel the fire.
JiggaJonsonAwww Shepard Smith doesn't belong in that bunch.
criticalthudsays...it's about time government feared it's people, not the other way around. imho
MonkeySpanksays...Shep is actually the good guy over at Fox News. When he is not reading the Fox-sponsored teleprompter, he is pretty amicable.
>> ^JiggaJonson:
Awww Shepard Smith doesn't belong in that bunch.
MonkeySpanksays...The 99% does not represent Anonymous - however you spin the label; it represents people with no political ties or ulterior motives. It is a purely circumstantial group that could be happy with the government tomorrow if the government played the right cards. The generally accepted concept of Anonymous is just not that! In other words, the enemy of my enemy is not my friend!
Good day to you!
MonkeySpanksays...Yeah,
I am pissed at the government too, but I'd like to be called an unhappy citizen, because that's what I am. I do not condone this superficial musically-themed and cliché video, so don't label me as part of this Anonymous movement. We love to label shit in this country.
>> ^Ryjkyj:
The thing that most people have a hard time understanding about anonymous is that they're not an organized group. Anyone can really do anything under the name and give anonymous credit for it. That is why they are simultaneously non-threatening and yet scary, and especially unpredictable.
We seem to have this idea that revolutions (I'm not saying there is one going on) are always organized around a single, well thought out idea. But if you traveled back to the time of the American revolution, you wouldn't hear a bunch of people screaming "no taxation without representation!" Shit, 90% of the people were illiterate back then. Everyone would've had they're own idea, but all shared a common sort of "direction", or a desire for change.
I think that's what anonymous is. It's just a bunch of people who have a little bit in common.
ForgedRealitysays...They're a bunch of 4chan children pretending like they matter.
Trolling only works on the internet, kids.
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