Any of you cholesterol deniers need to watch to the end.

Does it matter if one doesn't care?

Fallacious premise...butter never left.

I'm yet to hear of anyone turning away paramedics as they feel the crushing pain of a heart attack. All of a sudden they seem to care a lot ;-)

Also it comes out of tax money and I'd much rather my taxes be used for education/tech instead of treating people who cbf avoiding an easily preventable disease. Some people are literally eating away funding for education in that sense.

I don't deny what you say. But I also think you hurt your own cause with the pretext, "Any of you cholesterol deniers need to watch to the end."

Can't you be anymore seductive than that?

Yes, perhaps I've jumped the gun there

They were arguing over which foods were healthy and unhealthy around the time I was born. I suspect such arguments will continue after I am dead.

I eat butter. I eat eggs. I eat bacon. I don't even exercise that much.

I'm 45, almost 46.

My HDL as tested a month ago was 46. My LDL was 29. My Triglycerides were 121.

That's a great result! But the question is whether food makes it go up or down in the blood.

A single number cannot show us. So while you have a good result it does not prove whether or not foods make blood cholesterol rise or not. We need two measurements (or more) and compare them.

You would need to compare a before and after blood result of you eating a non cholesterol diet for a week at least. That's what these studies show, cholesterol goes down when people stop eating it. And up when people do eat it. The same will happen to you because that happens to everyone tested. Unless you are one of the X-men

You're lucky to have naturally low cholesterol. 14 million people last year were not so lucky.....

LOL! That's so cute.

Wow. Those are astonishingly good numbers and, considering what you eat, are conclusive enough that these foods can be eaten in a heart healthy diet with great results even without excessive exercise.

I'm curious what the numbers are in our Vegan friend's blood, I seriously doubt they would be better than yours.

It's not surprising, but is disappointing to me that he discounted your numbers as inconclusive and/or unique natural anomalies, since they don't support his 'animal products are deadly poison for all people' claims.

I would theorize that the stress caused by worrying incessantly over what you (and others) eat is far more dangerous than the health effects of all but the worst, most highly processed foods....maybe worse than any foods.

Edit: BTW, I'm 48...going on 13, and I had my blood tested last summer....I didn't memorize my numbers, but the doctor said they were all well within the safe/healthy range so I didn't feel a need to keep track. I don't eat eggs, but I make up for it with extra bacon and butter, and meat at nearly every meal (but I only eat one meal a day).

My bad, I thought you said 129, but 29 is incredibly low and usually only happens if someone has cancer or some liver disease - you really ought to check if it's been dropping over time.

(unless you're on a medication that's making it that low, this not a good sign I'm sorry to say)

Seriously I'm not being a jerk or anything, please see a doctor if your LDL is that low.

Unless you're using mmol/L instead of mg/dL, but then it would be very very high.

Hopefully you just made a typo!

Oopsie, I mixed up the numbers. My HDL was 29 and my LDL was 46. I am overweight for my height and I really don't like seafood. I take niaspan to raise my low good cholesterol. But my doctor isn't worried and I have been to the cardiologist a few times do to my anxiety attacks. All clear in the tubes so far.

Well there we go niaspan. Mystery solved

Why not fix your cholesterol with a whole foods diet instead? It's cheaper and with fewer side effects(only good ones). Of course work with your doctor if you do ever decide to give it a test run. Either way best of health to you sir.

The niaspan is only for the low good cholesterol, which 'may' work against my cardiovascular health. The doctor wasn't super concerned, but said we could try it. It's just niacin in a special wrapper, so I'm not too worried about it.

I probably should eat better, but I figure I should enjoy myself now and maybe skip those ultra fun 70's and beyond. I've seen too many people just fall apart once they hit their late 60's, a lot of them healthier than me.

Moving this video to transmorpher's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.

Indeed, your ratio is basically the opposite, even with the pills. But perhaps it will improve over time.

(often though these drugs don't fix the root cause, they address the symptoms which means you'll be on some form of pills forever, until you fix the underlying issue, which the doctor should have mentioned, but a lot of doctors are so disheartened these days because their patients rarely listen, or are scared of being called 'fat shamers' so they don't bother with the speech anymore)

Take a look at the success stories on ForksOverKnives.com we aren't exactly miserable.

When you feel for yourself how good life is when you are the master of your health and therefore fate, life becomes far far better. It's powerful, your whole perception of the world will change, and the fleeting pleasure you get from Butter or bacon doesn't compare, and of course we're eating cusine from across the world. We've given up nothing, just changed the ingredients.


I know yall think im a biased vegan, which is why I like to refer people to the success stories on plant based websites. You can see the life and passion return into people's eyes, there lives are transformed. The weight-loss is a mere side effect of being healthy.


https://www.forksoverknives.com/the-10-most-popular-plant-based-success-stories-of-2018/