Too true.

Voting is one of the things that defines us as a free country, and as evidenced in Florida and Ohio, the GOP couldn't care less.

What episode is this from?

Ha! The Simpsons is joking about it, and it is a joke. People got away rigging the U.S. election and shitting on democracy, and no one even cares about it anymore. Diebold is still at the wheel, all these years later.

Nukes aren't going to destroy America; complacency and apathy are doing it unimpeded.

>> ^ant:
What episode is this from?

It's from the upcoming "Treehouse of Horror".

they stole this joke from a video or flash animation (can't really remember) that floated around the web in the last presidential race. Where a guy would try to vote for Gore, and the machine, obviously rigged, would only accept votes for Bush.
Shame on you Simpsons writers. You're getting worse by the season.

Actually i think they got it from the 2004 elections... and no shame in even a comical reminder of it...

It's would be funnier if it weren't so true.

Wow that "only in Ohio" joke hit below the belt. :-( Being a resident of Ohio it still burns to this day when I think of the entire election coming down to my state, then going to Bush. The thought that the election was won with tampered votes is scary and infuriating. I dont like feeling helpless to stop the inevitable victory of evil and injustice. I think that anyone caught in a vote tampering operation should be charged with treason and killed. Yes killed. Anyone undermining our given right to vote for the candidate of our choice is nothing short of evil and should be exterminated without mercy.

So in short, be sure to vote with paper this year okay? Do it for me, and yourself, and most of all for your country.

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Shame on you Simpsons writers. You're getting worse by the season.


I hate to say it, but there's a lot of truth in that.

Shame on you Simpsons writers. You're getting worse by the season.

Lucky for me, I get dumber every season!

Drugs are bad, kids.

I hate to say it, but The Simpsons writers aren't smart enough anymore to tackle political humour.

What's worse than the fact that our election system is rigged?

The fact that Zimbabwe has a more accurate one than ours.

"I hate to say it, but The Simpsons writers aren't smart enough anymore to tackle political humour."

They probably just lost the writers that were doing it. I've been boycotting the Simpson's movie ever since it came to my attention that there would be nothing but physical comedy.

There was a time when the Simpson's were railing everyone and everything. It was fucking awesome! That was some of the best television I've ever seen, other than those similarly timed episodes of the Daily Show, whose producers lately must've thought that hiring writers from the Letterman show was a better idea.

physical comedy?

Just to clarify for the record, Ohio was 75% PUNCHCARDS in 2004.
Though a lot of methods were used to steal votes or cause long lines, primarily punch card substitution, precinct rotation and sending voters to the wrong punch card template.

Anyways, if you want to see a coincidental simpsons parody also involving Diebold...
http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/shockwave/diebolt.swf

Stop whining. I hope Obama does get elected so you have to listen to US whine for a change.

Rigged elections boo hoo! Waaaaah free market! Republicans ruined my life! BOOHOO America sucks amd my party has nothing to do with it WAAAAAAAH!

Wow. THAT was irrelevant.

8 years of Katrina, Iraq War, State Spying, Wire Taps, Torture, >> ^thepinky:
Stop whining. I hope Obama does get elected so you have to listen to US whine for a change.
Rigged elections boo hoo! Waaaaah free market! Republicans ruined my life! BOOHOO America sucks amd my party has nothing to do with it WAAAAAAAH!
Wow. THAT was irrelevant.


It's like you were in a coma for the last 8 years.

Nope. Wasn't in a coma. I don't like Bush and I never did. What bugs me is that you whine like somebody else is always to blame. A few of the people in our current government are Democrats and a few of them have a teensy bit of power (I'm not sure you knew about that). We're all in the same boat and we all want to do the right thing. If America fails, it will not be the fault of one party or one bad president. I'm annoyed by people who think that playing the blame game is productive. Complaining about rigged elections is just plain ol' unhelpful WHINING. Plus it isn't funny, even for liberals.

>> ^thepinky:
Complaining about rigged elections is just plain ol' unhelpful WHINING.

I can't believe anyone would actually say that.

>> ^thepinky:
Complaining about rigged elections is just plain ol' unhelpful WHINING. Plus it isn't funny, even for liberals.


I think you're misquoting the "honorable" Supreme Court Justice Scalia: Bush won. GET OVER IT.

>> ^gorillaman:
>> ^thepinky:
Complaining about rigged elections is just plain ol' unhelpful WHINING.
I can't believe anyone would actually say that.
Why not? The election was not rigged. You people just love to whine.

^ Tell it to the thousands of soldiers who died in Iraq.

Tell it to their families.

Tell it to the millions losing their houses, and the thousands losing their jobs.

Tell it to the people whose phones are being tapped, and whose government sees indefinite detention without trial and torture as justifiable tools of the trade.

But hey, it's just whining to say that just because Democrats got more votes they should've won the presidency.

Clearly it worked out just fine in the end, right?

^ Oh, wow. Do the results of Bush's presidency have anything to do with whether or not the election was rigged? No, they don't. I am happy to hear you criticize Bush's Reign of Stupidity anytime you want, but I find it unhelpful and childish for people to whine about rigged elections. We've had much better things to complain about in the last 8 years.

The whole argument annoys me, though. It is incredibly easy for Democrats to sit back and say, "I told you so," but unless you're all-knowing, NetRunner, you have NO idea whatsoever what things would have been like under Gore. We could very well be at war in Iraq right now. Even Democrats supported the war in 2002. Of course I am just as unhappy as you are with the state of the nation and the world, but I'm not sitting around blaming other people and whining about a "rigged election" that ocurred 8 long years ago. Bush won fairly within our established electoral system. Please, if you're going to whine, whine about something else.

This is why I hate political parties. They cloud our judgment because we selectively seek out information that supports our established opinions and the policies of our party. They tear our nation in two.

Let me just get this out of the way: I am not loyal to the Republican party. They're crazy! Why would anyone ever be okay with not giving basic human rights as outlined in our Constitution to prisoners? And we still allow the death penalty? And don't get me started on immigration. And why do good people allow these things to go on? Because the party creates a mob mentality that clouds not-so-common sense. And Democrats are just as bad. It's lunacy.

My point is that parties make it easy to blame the other guys whenever something goes wrong. Democrats currently feel very superior because they think that they can wash their hands of any mistakes made in the last eight years. It's like the war. Most Americans were fine with it at one point, but as soon as we ALL discovered that things weren't what they seemed, Democrats jumped back and have been saying, "that was all you guys" ever since. Intelligent Republicans felt just as disillusioned as Democrats did, but Republicans didn't have a convenient scapegoat. My advice is: Stop blaming other people and get to work.

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^ Oh, wow. Do the results of Bush's presidency have anything to do with whether or not the election was rigged? No, they don't. I am happy to hear you criticize Bush's Reign of Stupidity anytime you want, but I find it unhelpful and childish for people to whine about rigged elections. We've had much better things to complain about in the last 8 years.
The whole argument annoys me, though. It is incredibly easy for Democrats to sit back and say, "I told you so," but unless you're all-knowing, NetRunner, you have NO idea whatsoever what things would have been like under Gore. We could very well be at war in Iraq right now. Even Democrats supported the war in 2002. Of course I am just as unhappy as you are with the state of the nation and the world, but I'm not sitting around blaming other people and whining about a "rigged election" that ocurred 8 long years ago. Bush won fairly within our established electoral system. Please, if you're going to whine, whine about something else.


Boy what a straw man you put out there.

It'd be whining if Bush's presidency was like his dad's. I didn't like a lot of what he did, but he didn't violate the ethical and legal core of what I think America stands for, and then treat anyone who tried to stop him like a petulant child.

It's sort've like telling Al Qaeda to "quit whining" about troops in the Middle East.

I'm not sitting back and saying "I told you so", I'm campaigning to change what's happening every way I can, including trying to reach out to people like you who think there weren't any consequences worth getting mad about from having an election stolen like this.

As for Democrats supporting the war in 2002, I'm as pissed about that as anything else, and it's why I was dead-set against Hillary and her refusal to seek repentance for that vote during the Primaries. I think this country would have to be nuts to elect someone who still is one of the war's biggest cheerleaders.

As for parties themselves, yes, they do tend to encourage people to be more dogmatic, but who're these "intelligent Republicans" who opposed the war when we "ALL discovered that things weren't what they seemed"?

Democrats can't seem to find even 10 Republican votes to help them put an end to the war. Hell, they can't even get Joe Lieberman to vote to end the war.

There's just no factual evidence that the Republican party has learned from their mistakes over the last 8 years.

As for your self-righteous proclamation that I shouldn't be raising my voice -- just somehow "working" to fix it -- don't you think to fix it we need to be able to convince people like you to stop thinking of the two parties as being "euqally wrong"?

Missing the point here, NetRunner.

I'm campaigning to change what's happening every way I can, including trying to reach out to people like you who think there weren't any consequences worth getting mad about from having an election stolen like this.

I'm not sure you were reading carefully when I stated that I'm also unhappy with the state of things. I think that Bush is an extremely unsatifactory President. It's definitely worth getting mad about. You misunderstood the point I made. Blaming the last 8 years on a stolen election is what I'm annoyed with, because there is no way to tell how things might have been. Not to mention that the election wasn't stolen.

Which "end to the war" plan are you talking about here? Of course Republicans aren't going to vote to end the war without finishing the job. That would be idiotic. Democrats *cough*Obama!*cough* act like they oppose the war until they win the primaries and realize that to pull the troops out immediately would be monumentally stupid.

Please, raise your voice all you want. You forget that I'm not talking about whining in general. I mean, people are STILL sore about the 2000 election for goodness' sake. As if that makes ANY difference now.

P.S. You put quotation marks around "euqally wrong" as if I said that?

I think you might be getting mixed up with another video.

FYI, official video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoWJkrlptNs

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