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18 Comments
jonnysays...*nochannel *engineering *fail *lies
This is not generating any free energy, and if left running will eventually stop due to losses from friction and (what I'm guessing is) the spring in the little bouncing arm.
[edit] That said, I should probably leave the explanation to those with a more thorough knowledge of physics and the desire to *debunk this.
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HenningKOsays...Yup, magnets have stored energy in them and can be used to do work. But it's not an endless supply of energy, and the amount of work being done here is pretty minuscule. Hook it up to a crankshaft and we'll see how much energy this little guy can produce, and for how long.
robbersdog49says...That's not how magnets work. They have energy stored in them in the same way as a shelf does. If you pick something up off the floor and put it on a shelf it gains potential energy. But you've given it the energy, not the shelf. Magnets are strange things to wrap your head around. It seem like there's an extra energy going on, but there isn't. Take the example in the beginning, with him pushing magnets around on a table. Change the magnets for normal coins and it still works, you just have to get the coins to touch for them to move. However, the input/output of the system is the same. Move penny one 10mm and penny 2 moves 10mm. You've had to supply all the energy to move both coins. This is exactly the same with the magnets but because magnetism is involved people stop thinking about it properly. Taking the final machine, exactly the same thing could easily be produced just using ramps and bearings, and we'd all obviously see that it couldn't work. But as soon as magnets are involved people think there's some extra energy going on and it just isn't.
This is a fraud. There is some jiggery pokery going on. I'm guessing the trick is in the big black tube that the bar holding the magnet runs through. It serves no purpose to the design so ask yourself what is it there for?
(Hint: There wouldn't be enough energy in the wheel each revolution to lift the magnet enough to make this system work)
Yup, magnets have stored energy in them and can be used to do work. But it's not an endless supply of energy, and the amount of work being done here is pretty minuscule. Hook it up to a crankshaft and we'll see how much energy this little guy can produce, and for how long.
charliemsays...Entropy is a son of a bitch.......and so are the people trying to sell this as something other than what it is, garbage.
If this was real, you would expect to see this engine accelerate uncontrollably.
Instead, it reaches a peak speed and stops accelerating. This speed will be determined by the potential energy given to the rotating wheel, from the distance drop of the magnet.
Once it reaches the fastest that potential energy can push it, the system reaches equilibrium. If you try and take the slightest bit of energy out of this system, it will grind to a halt.
chingalerasays...*Retroencabulationism™
HenningKOsays...Oh yeah? I thought magnets had something like energy stored in the same way as a battery. Something about the ordered parallel state of their electrons will decay into a disordered one, so eventually the magnet will lose its magnetism. Faster if its being used to push stuff around. Not so?
That's not how magnets work. They have energy stored in them in the same way as a shelf does. If you pick something up off the floor and put it on a shelf it gains potential energy. But you've given it the energy, not the shelf. Magnets are strange things to wrap your head around. It seem like there's an extra energy going on, but there isn't. Take the example in the beginning, with him pushing magnets around on a table. Change the magnets for normal coins and it still works, you just have to get the coins to touch for them to move. However, the input/output of the system is the same. Move penny one 10mm and penny 2 moves 10mm. You've had to supply all the energy to move both coins. This is exactly the same with the magnets but because magnetism is involved people stop thinking about it properly. Taking the final machine, exactly the same thing could easily be produced just using ramps and bearings, and we'd all obviously see that it couldn't work. But as soon as magnets are involved people think there's some extra energy going on and it just isn't.
This is a fraud. There is some jiggery pokery going on. I'm guessing the trick is in the big black tube that the bar holding the magnet runs through. It serves no purpose to the design so ask yourself what is it there for?
(Hint: There wouldn't be enough energy in the wheel each revolution to lift the magnet enough to make this system work)
chingalerasays...thank god we got how magnets work all cleared-up....
Oh yeah? I thought magnets had something like energy stored in the same way as a battery. Something about the ordered parallel state of their electrons will decay into a disordered one, so eventually the magnet will lose its magnetism. Faster if its being used to push stuff around. Not so?
robbersdog49says...Let's get this straight. There is power being added to this device other than through the magnets. The speed isn't governed by the energy in the magnets or the potential energy in anything (for a start potential energy is energy that isn't being used therefore it can't power anything at all).
There is a little device in the upright black tube that the bar holding the magnet runs through. This device is assisting in lifting the magnet. This device is using power from a source other than the wheel. It's a strange way to use external power to drive a wheel, but it's no different to just wiring the wheel up to an electric motor. They've just tried to hide the fact that the motor is there.
This is not an honest video. It's lying to you. It's trying to make you think you're watching something you're not. It's a trick.
Entropy is a son of a bitch.......and so are the people trying to sell this as something other than what it is, garbage.
If this was real, you would expect to see this engine accelerate uncontrollably.
Instead, it reaches a peak speed and stops accelerating. This speed will be determined by the potential energy given to the rotating wheel, from the distance drop of the magnet.
Once it reaches the fastest that potential energy can push it, the system reaches equilibrium. If you try and take the slightest bit of energy out of this system, it will grind to a halt.
halfAcatsays...the yt comments link to this image: http://i.imgur.com/ViW4U85.jpg
(device seemingly powered by compressed air)
robbersdog49says...The wikipedia article on magnets is a good place to start. Magnets can lose their magnetism, but that's not the same as saying they have energy in them that's being used up like a battery.
If you stand next to a large lump of clay and then step onto the clay you've gained some potential energy. The taller the lump of clay the more potential energy you've gained. However, this energy hasn't come from the clay, you've had to use energy to gain it. It took you more energy to step onto the clay than you gained in potential energy so this couldn't be the basis for a perpetual motor.
Next to the lump of clay is a large bellows attached to a balloon. You step off the clay onto the bellows. You drop down to ground level and pump up the balloon a bit. You can repeat this process over and over until the balloon is pumped up. However, each time you step onto the clay it sags a bit and you're not so high up. After a while if you do this for long enough the clay will be well trodden down and each time you step off the clay onto the bellows it will have hardly any effect. The clay has lost it's ability to help you pump up the balloon. It's lost it's height. But at no point did it give you any energy to pump up the balloon. You used your own energy to step up onto the clay to give yourself the potential energy, which you then converted to kinetic energy by stepping onto the bellows and pumping up the balloon.
This is exactly the same as a magnet losing it's magnetism. It's not like a battery losing power by powering something else. There's no energy in a magnet. It never gives energy to anything else. Like a drive shaft doesn't power a car, it just helps move the energy from the engine to the wheels.
Magnets fool everyone by working at a distance. Everything else we deal with in a physical way has to touch something else to affect it. You can't get a nail into wood without physically hitting it with a hammer. Magnets confuse us and that makes it easy for scammers with their perpetual motion devices to make us believe things that aren't true. We don't have the right wiring to easily figure out what's going on intuitively.
Magnets simply don't work how you think they do, or how the maker of this video wants you to believe they do.
Oh yeah? I thought magnets had something like energy stored in the same way as a battery. Something about the ordered parallel state of their electrons will decay into a disordered one, so eventually the magnet will lose its magnetism. Faster if its being used to push stuff around. Not so?
HenningKOsays...THanks for answering, RobbersDog.
siftbotsays...Moving this video to pumkinandstorm's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.
antsays...*music
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Drachen_Jagersays..."This technology has been suppressed because it is a threat to the profits of the energy corporations."
Umm yeah. They're doing a bang-up job of it too, cause YouTube pulled this video down within seconds.
Oh no, wait... they didn't.
Perhaps you should go build a car like that Chinese guy did that has a fan hooked up to a generator that feeds energy to the car's battery. Or try some DWFTTW videos for a change?
In conclusion, physics does not work that way! Good night!
messengersays...*music
messengersays...@robbersdog49
You explain things very, very well. I hope your daily life includes teaching because it would be a shame if it didn't.
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