"Charmaine Yoest"

god knows how to spell her name and we dont care!

again, calling for equal weight to lend credence to a theory that has no weight. sorry, no.

shes right about kids being smart. usually they ask, around puberty or earlier ... "what the fuck is this fucking nonsense about god again???"

90% of americans believe in god? that one seems wierdly possible to me.. but only cause i test in the top 10% on all my standardized exams... and i dislike 90% of the people i meet!

http://www.videosift.com/video/Ida-47-million-year-old-primate-could-be-missing-link

stick that up her ass instead of a bible

what a hoebag

Can we please keep the vulgarity to a minimum and debate whether the earth is actually a sphere or flat like logical rational human beings?

She never answered the (fucking) question.

holy shit, for a minute there, robert boston was hotter than anderson cooper, who everyone knows is the silver fox.

i hope the next time im not making any sense, hell come in and spank me too.

hmmm. I get the impression she would like religion taught in every class. How about science class being used to teach science?

Not even the low resolution of this clip can soften those crazy eyes.

creationists are just utterly butthurt about the fact that no one with even half a brain in the scientific community takes their shit seriously. and so they come on tv and whine and cry and dodge the reality. we need more people like Rob here but with more vigor, to really put them in their places.

She wants us to teach other subjects that have been disproven? So we should teach that the earth is flat, that the earth is the center of the universe and the sun revolves around it?

waterboard her!

Why does it look like hell behind the host?

if only they had let the science advocate capitalize on the last point. I dont really think the interview got interesting.

So she says she just wants every controversy to be taught in our schools... Something tells me that if someone asked her to represent teaching homosexuality in social studies she would back off that argument.

Did she just call Evolution 'an opinion'? lol.


You know, I wouldn't be apposed to teaching 'Intelligent Design.' Really, I wouldn't. But before I think it should be taught, I want to hear the theory. I have yet to see any interview, any seminar, anything about Creationism or Intelligent Design that actually proposes a theory.. and 'it's in the bible' or 'it's to complex, SOMEONE must have designed it' simply don't count.

If these guys had an actual theory, and not just an 'idea' or an 'opinion' but an actual, scientific theory (which requires MUCH stronger evidence than the casual definition of a theory), you'd think they would release a paper detailing said theory, but they never have and never actually discuss the details behind Intelligent Design at all. I really don't think they have one. I think in the end, their theory is 'because it's in the bible.' And that simply isn't Science. It is mythology.

I really cant stand Christianity. Not because if its beliefs, or its practitioner. But because it has consistently slowed down human progress for 1500 years now. How much longer are we going to have to deal with their backwards thinking?

I wish these scientists would have the REAL smack-downs ready!

Evolution IS up for debate! If you can bring a single shred of hard evidence that contradicts evolutionary theory, any scientist would LOVE to publish that and become instantly famous. The problem is that all the evidence fits into the theory of evolution!

And I would even agree that there is a place in the classroom to teach the gaps in the theory. Like how life first came together, what made those amino acids first begin to form? There are people working on that issue, but there is no consensus yet. And discussing it may just inspire students to become scientists and look for the answer themselves. Discussing gaps in the fossil record may inspire new paleontologists. There are plenty of things science doesn't have nailed yet, and having a logical discussion of those things could inspire people to figure them out.

But telling kids that "God is the reason" does just the opposite. It stifles curiosity and investigative thinking. It could tip the balance for a child from becoming a scientist to becoming a mindless drone who accepts what they are told. And that's where you can see the real agenda here.

Once again, the liars are taking what they do and assigning it to their opposition. They claim scientists are stifling argument, when that is really what religion does best. And now that their brain-drain is finally being pushed out of the classroom, they are pissed! If people start thinking for themselves, who is going to give 10% of their income to the church? That steady supply of fresh altar boys may dry up! They might have to get real jobs and start actually... working, eww!

This is the gilded rhetoric they use to try to insert completely bogus and previously debunked "weaknesses of evolution" into the curriculum.

What creationists DO want is for their belief to be taught alongside science as if it were on equal footing.

IT IS NOT.

However, what I would LOVE for schools to have is a broad based 'religious education' class which teaches about all the major world religions and the people who believe them, the different countries etc. but does so in a way that isn't saying ANY of them are true or false. Just teach it as another form of history. Here kids is what makes up a large portion of the world. These are all the things that people believe.

But is that what is taught?

ooooh no, not here in Australia.

Our eldest is in Prep this year (preparatory year, before grade one, in primary school, effectively your first year of real school). On the enrollment form there was a question 'do you want your child to have religious education'. Now, KNOWING that state schools teach Christianity, and teach it as 'fact', we said NO. As did at least one other family (as they are Muslim). We discovered a few weeks in that all the kids were having Religious education, and that he was asking about Jesus and God... *sigh*. I was happy to discuss it, happy to say that the bible is a book of stories that try to give some good idea across etc. and that there may have been a man called Jesus and people liked what he said... BUT I don't want some person teaching this crap as fact each week to my son.

We said we didn't want it taught to him, so when it was RE class they put him in the back of the classroom to play. We said this was unacceptable, because a) it will make him feel a bit like an outcast, and b) he can still hear the class. So now he goes to one of the other Prep classes during RE.

Now, I can just hear religious people going on about 'What are you afraid of?' 'Shouldn't your child be able to make up his own mind?' 'You're being a fascist and being just as bad as the people you say are being closed minded'.

Bullshiiiiit.

A 5 year old does NOT have the critical faculties to be able to tell if what they are being told is REAL is actually real or not. Plus I don't want someone at his school telling him these things as fact, only for us to have to tell him they are NOT fact. That'll just make him less inclined to have any respect for the actual, real truths that the teachers want to teach like... oh... science etc.

Any single faith based teachings have NO PLACE in a damn state school. There are religious schools for that crap. It has made us consider moving schools. And so many parents are just sheep and just accept it...

Disgusting.

what a nice lady

Yes, there's the history of science, and 40 years of debunking creationism/ID. The amount of evidence supporting the Theory of Evolution is quick impression. The amount supporting Creationism/ID is quite low. Doesn't say that Creationism or ID is wrong. Its just given the load of evidence for one, and lack of the other, we go with the Thoery of Evolution.

Now then, the Theory of Evolution has many applications across many disciplins of science. Understanding how diseases chance and mutate has helped in the medical field (medicine), software has used the concepts. Its not just physics, chemistry and biology. The Federal Reserve has used the same concepts to help understand how money changes systems.

What applications does Creationism or Intelligent Design give the scientific community? What amount of this knowledge is useful to Mankind beyond the knowledge of it?

Yet again, the creationism advocate believes the Theory of Evolution talks about the same stuff as Creationsim. She should be comparing Abiogenesis to Creationism. But, that would involove knoweldge of science and being educated. A concept the really conservative members of the USA do not want Americans to be.

Open to any teaching any controversy in the classroom, so long as it inspires debate?

How about teaching about homosexuality in a sex-ed class, or gay marriage?

#1) Apparently Anderson Cooper is reporting from his firey lair in hell

#2) I love how creationists and religious people who criticize science say "Why are you afraid of people questioning your 'theories' " but then run and hide whenever a someone critiques religion. Can't have it both ways people. If you want your ideas to make it into the SCIENCE class room, then you are REQUIRED to pass through the SCIENTIFIC METHOD and undergo thorough scrutiny of whatever objective EVIDENCE and FACTS you can produce. That does not bode well for the creationists.

#3) Despite #2, I wonder if the solution is to have complete transparency; Allow ID to be mentioned in the science class in exchange for Science's take to be mentioned in religion classes. My bet is the ID/Creationist view would crumble quickly under the weight of its own stupidity and in a few years it would be laughed right back out the door. Then we could sit back and say "We did the democratic thing, we discussed it openly, and the people have decided: you lost". As a scientist, I admit it's sounds like a scary bet at first, but as I look at more and more of these type of situations I realized that resisting stupid people often is the main reason they gain any attention at all.

"let me finish, charmaine"

LOL DISCIPLINE

>> ^Drax:
Why does it look like hell behind the host?


because Anderson Cooper created the Earth 10,000 years ago.

Ok, what I don't get is WHY are the religious right so up in arms against science something that challenges their belief and so bent on shoving their religion down everyones throat.

Are they so insecure in their faith that they need constant and complete confirmation from everyone and everything around them? Are they mentally stuck in the 1600s? Scared and confused by all this 'progress' thingy going on around them that they can't mentally process and/or cope with?

This is a bit tounge in cheek, but still a serious question none the less. I just don't comprehend people trying to roll human knowledge back several centuries (but probably enjoy their big fat gas guzzeling SUVs to the fullest). And I'm afraid do be able to really deal with this problem (and yes, I think they are a problem) we'd first need to know why they are what they are.

Dawkins said it best:

If we "should" teach the creationist theory of one religion, then we should teach them ALL. Why does Christianity get some sort of legitimacy when Islam, Hinduism, Buddhist, etc etc etc don't?

Ultimately, Creationist views have NO PLACE in a SCIENCE class. Go take a course on theology if you want to learn about that, SCIENCE has nothing to do with that...

Oh, and how the hell did this get so high on the top 15 without a little

*lies

Adding video to channels (Lies) - requested by ponceleon.

I'm tired of this; this isn't a debate. If you believe in "intelligent design" you're an idiot that can't be reasoned with. The conversation is over before it starts by your lack of ability for critical thinking.

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