Christian Debates Richard Dawkins Without Dawkins Present

Description from godtube: "Dr. Frank Turek Owns Atheist Guru Richard Dawkins ; Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, 'even' his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse"
HadouKen24says...

This guy can't even get his facts about atheists right. It was Dennett who came up with the term "Bright," not Dawkins.

EDIT: In addition, he's wrong that there must necessarily be an uncaused first cause. We don't know that this universe is the first universe, or a universe uncaused by a previous chain of causation; that's still on the table as a possibility. With it established as a physical fact, one only need to point out that it is logically possible as well. There is no logical contradiction involved in asserting that there was no beginning to the series of caused states that has resulted in now.

lavollsays...

and why? why is that man standing up there talking about this to people? to ensure his own passage into heaven? because god's hate and fury boils in him?
because his very identity feels threathened by something?

bluecliffsays...

>> ^HadouKen24:
This guy can't even get his facts about atheists right. It was Dennett who came up with the term "Bright," not Dawkins.
EDIT: In addition, he's wrong that there must necessarily be an uncaused first cause. We don't know that this universe is the first universe, or a universe uncaused by a previous chain of causation; that's still on the table as a possibility. With it established as a physical fact, one only need to point out that it is logically possible as well. There is no logical contradiction involved in asserting that there was no beginning to the series of caused states that has resulted in now.


Granted. But wouldn't that put this universe without a beginning somehow out of the realm of physics (partially, at least.) , since it science needs at least a hypothetical cause as the basis for its conjecture?

westysays...

just because you know of a concept it dose not make that concept true,


I love how litraly the first thing he says is stupid like surly if you were in the audeace you would be like lol im alredy not going to take you serously becuse you just opend with th emost retarded thing ever.

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