Cenk (TYT) Goes Ballistic About Fundamentalist Religion

Cenk Uygur host of The Young Turks in response to a story about a woman dying because she was denied an abortion goes on a rant against fundamentalist religion. -yt
probiesays...

I hope that this momentum continues so that future historians will look back and see this time as a second Enlightenment. The fundamentalists, Cassandras and superstitious holy-rollers need to lurch back into the dark from whence they came.

Harzzachsays...

Religion IS on its way out when people are getting wealthier and more and more educated. The only thing to stop this developement is to keep people poor, uninformed and dumb, especially uninformed and dumb.

VoodooVsays...

What does wealth have to do with it?

If anything, when you're wealthy, you're less likely to want to challenge yourself and to protect the status quo, after all, the status quo is what allowed you to become wealthy in the first place.

Harzzachsaid:

Religion IS on its way out when people are getting wealthier and more and more educated. The only thing to stop this developement is to keep people poor, uninformed and dumb, especially uninformed and dumb.

Harzzachsays...

With Wealth mostly comes independence and better education. When you are no longer poor, relying on some spiritual world to free you from your burdens is no longer necessary. You can just say: Fuck it! My paradise is here and here i will live a good & decent life.

VoodooVsaid:

What does wealth have to do with it?

VoodooVsays...

you do know that many of most wealthiest people and organizations in the world are religious?

wealth does not equate to, or lead to education. It doesn't take a higher education to have the questioning nature to reject religion.

Harzzachsaid:

With Wealth mostly comes independence and better education. When you are no longer poor, relying on some spiritual world to free you from your burdens is no longer necessary. You can just say: Fuck it! My paradise is here and here i will live a good & decent life.

chingalerasays...

Missing his point VoodooV- Weath (comfortable, social and political environment=stable) as opposed to Poverty (constant struggle, unstable living conditions and government, etc).
Wealth provides access to information, education, and comfort in our temporarily-fucked paradigm. Unfortunately, knowledge and the leisure to pursue a higher path of consciousness is not something "endowed to all men by their creator" but something to be kept in a museum or private collection....or maybe even an entire city in ROME??? ..hint,hint??

Religions are wealthy because they have duped humans that they have a handle on their spirituality, or are a direct conduit to God herself. How do you think they got wealthy??
Oh and YES, it does take a higher education than that of a base, instinctual, meatbot (not talking about "University" per-se, either), because in order to HAVE have the questioning nature to reject religion you must first understand what it is about an institution's take on God, that you have a problem with....Harder to do that when you are poor and stupid BY DESIGN!

Religion has lasted as long as it has because people are herded, worked like cattle, and fed a continual stream of partial or outright disinformation. The average person may not have the information to make an informed decision, or even access to it.

There's a reason for the adage, "Knowledge is Power"
Control the dissemination of information and you can control a shitload of human bean!!

Oh, and a hearty down vote for Stink Uraguay's continual, smugly-smugstein rant(z). ...(everything he offers up is a rant right, and never are they either witty, or eloquent. MEH

VoodooVsays...

I got his point, but it's still a flawed argument. getting out of poverty and being wealthy are not the same thing, nor should it be.

Wealth is not a requirement to education, nor is a college degree a guarantee that you're educated. There are correlations between them, yes, but correlation is not causation.

intelligence is not wisdom and money does not buy either. All you need to throw off the yoke of religion is a questioning mind and some courage. You can flunk every class you've ever been in and still be smart enough to know what's reality and what's a fictional story.

Harzzachsays...

I never said that wealth will always automatically lead to atheist enlightenment or a relaxed religous believe where you can accept and incorporate science and knowledge. But being no longer poor (not as an individual, but as a whole society) helps. Much!

Sagemindsays...

He's right.
This should be pissing everyone off.
Especially if you live in the states which have people using their religion to control you and make policy that rules you based on their religion..

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