Bill Moyers Essay: The Hypocrisy of 'Justice for All'

Bill reports on the hypocrisy of “justice for all” in a society where billions are squandered for a war born in fraud while the poor are pushed aside. He draws particular attention to the failing legacy of Gideon vs. Wainwright, the landmark Supreme ruling that established the constitutional right of criminal defendants to legal representation, even if they can’t afford it. Turns out true justice -- not just the word that comes from our lips when we recite the Pledge of Allegiance -- is still unaffordable for those who need it most. -vimeo
Jerykksays...

Defending the poor is all well and good but that costs money too. If the poor aren't contributing to the economy, who ends up being penalized here? The inherent problem here is with irresponsible people. People who have children when they don't have enough money to support them. It seems like such a simple consideration yet so few seem to heed it. Don't start a family unless you have a steady and secure job that can support one. Think of the long-term expenses that a family entails, save your money whenever possible and make safe investments. If people did all this, both poverty and crime would decrease significantly.

Also, the pledge of allegiance is ridiculously antiquated. What exactly is it supposed to accomplish? Loyalty to the nation? When kids only regurgitate it as a matter of routine at the start of the school day, it holds no meaning. It's not like religion which is ingrained through constant reinforcement and conditioning both at home and in church.

robbersdog49says...

So, would you like to tell us which jobs we should get which are sure to be safe for the next 18 years? You know, the ones where it's impossible for the company to go bankrupt or suffer some other financial crisis?

Huh?

To think that someone's fate is entirely in their own hands is naivety at it's worst. When you're talking about a country like america, if just one percent of the population loses their jobs without it being their fault that's still over 3,000,000 people. That's a hell of a lot of people to condemn for what, not trying hard enough? Being wasters?

I'm british and I live in a welfare state. My wife and I pay a good chunk more in taxes than the average person in the UK. I've never claimed any welfare and with a little luck I'll never have to. But I'm proud to live in a country where caring for those less fortunate than ourselves is deemed important.

Jerykksaid:

Defending the poor is all well and good but that costs money too. If the poor aren't contributing to the economy, who ends up being penalized here? The inherent problem here is with irresponsible people. People who have children when they don't have enough money to support them. It seems like such a simple consideration yet so few seem to heed it. Don't start a family unless you have a steady and secure job that can support one. Think of the long-term expenses that a family entails, save your money whenever possible and make safe investments. If people did all this, both poverty and crime would decrease significantly.

Also, the pledge of allegiance is ridiculously antiquated. What exactly is it supposed to accomplish? Loyalty to the nation? When kids only regurgitate it as a matter of routine at the start of the school day, it holds no meaning. It's not like religion which is ingrained through constant reinforcement and conditioning both at home and in church.

poolcleanersays...

Compulsory education equalized across all classes of people. The inherent problem is the cry before the process of disambiguation.

Jerykksaid:

Defending the poor is all well and good but that costs money too. If the poor aren't contributing to the economy, who ends up being penalized here? The inherent problem here is with irresponsible people. People who have children when they don't have enough money to support them. It seems like such a simple consideration yet so few seem to heed it. Don't start a family unless you have a steady and secure job that can support one. Think of the long-term expenses that a family entails, save your money whenever possible and make safe investments. If people did all this, both poverty and crime would decrease significantly.

Also, the pledge of allegiance is ridiculously antiquated. What exactly is it supposed to accomplish? Loyalty to the nation? When kids only regurgitate it as a matter of routine at the start of the school day, it holds no meaning. It's not like religion which is ingrained through constant reinforcement and conditioning both at home and in church.

bobknight33says...

Bill Moyers,

Justice for all ??? What bullshit. More like robbing Peter to pay Paul who would rather sit on his ass and collect free money.. Where is the "justice" for the earnest worker that works hard and barley makes ends meet just to have the government tax them more?

Where is the Justice for the welfare recipient who becomes trapped from excelling into the workforce only to have the welfare taken away at a disproportionate rate? welfare is a trap by democrats to keep the poor in their pockets.

Bitching about Executing people? Really? Do the crime and pay the fine.


Quit bitching about companies not paying taxes.

If you could get "special" treatment you would take full advantage every time. Who wouldn't.

The Government, sets the rules. Quit voting long-timers who keep miking the public.

Jerykksays...

Getting a job in engineering or medicine is probably going to be pretty safe. There are a lot of careers that are still safe. The problem is when you can barely afford to support yourself, then you get married and start a family. Or maybe even skip the marriage part and just have kids anyway because sure, why not? While there are many who have lost their jobs over the past few years, the ones who planned ahead and invested wisely are not living in poverty. The ones living in poverty are the ones who never managed their money well and made irresponsible choices, like having kids.

Spending tax money to improve welfare doesn't fix the root of the problem. It's like putting a band-aid on a gaping wound. The problem is that most people are irresponsible with their money and live beyond their means, building up debt while wasting what little income they have.

robbersdog49said:

So, would you like to tell us which jobs we should get which are sure to be safe for the next 18 years? You know, the ones where it's impossible for the company to go bankrupt or suffer some other financial crisis?

Huh?

To think that someone's fate is entirely in their own hands is naivety at it's worst. When you're talking about a country like america, if just one percent of the population loses their jobs without it being their fault that's still over 3,000,000 people. That's a hell of a lot of people to condemn for what, not trying hard enough? Being wasters?

I'm british and I live in a welfare state. My wife and I pay a good chunk more in taxes than the average person in the UK. I've never claimed any welfare and with a little luck I'll never have to. But I'm proud to live in a country where caring for those less fortunate than ourselves is deemed important.

siftbotsays...

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