If I'm not mistaken, she also left Tony Blair lost for words when she asked him why she was paying taxes when she wasn't allowed to vote.

Wales, UT USA. Just sayin......

>> ^Confucius:

Wales, UT USA. Just sayin......


Fair point. Wouldn't really explain why he didn't grasp she wasn't American though, especially seeing it was on a visit to the UK. Maybe he thinks Britain is made up of states. Also retarded. Every possibility as to what he was asking is fucking dumb!

Wales, Alaska

Wales is a town in the Nome Census Area, Alaska, United States. At the 2000 census the population was 152. It is the westernmost town (or settlement of any sort) on the American mainland.

Um...she said this happened at his inauguration in the US.

>> ^alien_concept:

>> ^Confucius:
Wales, UT USA. Just sayin......

Fair point. Wouldn't really explain why he didn't grasp she wasn't American though, especially seeing it was on a visit to the UK. Maybe he thinks Britain is made up of states. Also retarded. Every possibility as to what he was asking is fucking dumb!

>> ^Confucius:

Um...she said this happened at his inauguration in the US.
>> ^alien_concept:
>> ^Confucius:
Wales, UT USA. Just sayin......

Fair point. Wouldn't really explain why he didn't grasp she wasn't American though, especially seeing it was on a visit to the UK. Maybe he thinks Britain is made up of states. Also retarded. Every possibility as to what he was asking is fucking dumb!



Touche! I guess he couldn't hear her very well, Welsh sound like no other accent on earth, haha

Yup. I have no excuse for that one.

>> ^alien_concept:

>> ^Confucius:
Um...she said this happened at his inauguration in the US.
>> ^alien_concept:
>> ^Confucius:
Wales, UT USA. Just sayin......

Fair point. Wouldn't really explain why he didn't grasp she wasn't American though, especially seeing it was on a visit to the UK. Maybe he thinks Britain is made up of states. Also retarded. Every possibility as to what he was asking is fucking dumb!


Touche! I guess he couldn't hear her very well, Welsh sound like no other accent on earth, haha

Oh, where to begin?

There are probably dozens of these moments on the scorecard of every celebrity, great and small. I'll even give Obama a free pass for calling Hawaii "ASIA" during one of his many campaign stopstaxpayer-funded vacations important meetings. Props to the libmedia who downplay His Earness's gaffes. His larger gaffes, like the economy, price of gasoline, failures as Commander-In-Chief, we'll leave to the few history books not written by leftards.


Referring to this BBC show: no one across the pond should be calling anyone here dumb. USA may be almost a police state, but Britain's been disarmed and defeated by socialism for decades. Bankrupt Eurounion. Smile for the 10,000,000 cameras, serfs.

Wales? Not enough to even register one who-gives-a-shit. Last time I heard of anything Welsh was a maintenance man killed by a werewolf in Stephen King's Silver Bullet.

Bush flew jets. You're a spoiled singer. Deal.

Stop Press: Ignorant American Doesn't Know About Non-American Things!

Continue, QM.

Give Bush SOME credit -- he mentally eliminated cetaceans.

Bush said a lot of dumb things but he didn't do many dumb things.

Try learning to fly an F-102 without getting yourself killed.

This is hearsay. On that note, not credible.

Ignorance doesn't frighten me. Ignorance means "lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact." If I want to learn about something, I learn it.

Deliberate intellectual dishonesty, the coin of the realm for leftists, is another matter.

After you, kym!

>> ^kymbos:

Stop Press: Ignorant American Doesn't Know About Non-American Things!
Continue, QM.

>> ^quantumushroom:
Oh, where to begin?
There are probably dozens of these moments on the scorecard of every celebrity, great and small. I'll even give Obama a free pass for calling Hawaii "ASIA" during one of his many campaign stopstaxpayer-funded vacations important meetings. Props to the libmedia who downplay His Earness's gaffes. His larger gaffes, like the economy, price of gasoline, failures as Commander-In-Chief, we'll leave to the few history books not written by leftards.
Referring to this BBC show: no one across the pond should be calling anyone here dumb. USA may be almost a police state, but Britain's been disarmed and defeated by socialism for decades. Bankrupt Eurounion. Smile for the 10,000,000 cameras, serfs.
Wales? Not enough to even register one who-gives-a-shit. Last time I heard of anything Welsh was a maintenance man killed by a werewolf in Stephen King's Silver Bullet.
Bush flew jets. You're a spoiled singer. Deal.
You're wearing me down QM. I actually agree with almost everything you just said. Will this cost me some power points or something?
Really though I dont respond well to criticisms from across the pond right now, I dont think they have our back, I'm not sure they have their own back.

I was referring to your ignorance of the Welsh. As for 'campaign stops/taxpayer funded vacations', do you mean like this: http://videosift.com/video/White-House-Caught-Doctoring-Mission-Accomplished-Video>> ^quantumushroom:

Ignorance doesn't frighten me. Ignorance means "lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact." If I want to learn about something, I learn it.
Deliberate intellectual dishonesty, the coin of the realm for leftists, is another matter.
After you, kym!
>> ^kymbos:
Stop Press: Ignorant American Doesn't Know About Non-American Things!
Continue, QM.

"What state is Wales in" surely reflects a deep concern about the socio-economic welfare of another nation?

Well, maybe not. But Bush is still a bright spark of hope compared to some of the current Republican hopefuls. Romney seems the least insane, but probably only because he's now one of the few that hasn't shown up in international news as being a completely ignorant idiot who would not be fit to run a petrol station.

>> ^csnel3:

>> ^quantumushroom:
Oh, where to begin?
There are probably dozens of these moments on the scorecard of every celebrity, great and small. I'll even give Obama a free pass for calling Hawaii "ASIA" during one of his many campaign stopstaxpayer-funded vacations important meetings. Props to the libmedia who downplay His Earness's gaffes. His larger gaffes, like the economy, price of gasoline, failures as Commander-In-Chief, we'll leave to the few history books not written by leftards.
Referring to this BBC show: no one across the pond should be calling anyone here dumb. USA may be almost a police state, but Britain's been disarmed and defeated by socialism for decades. Bankrupt Eurounion. Smile for the 10,000,000 cameras, serfs.
Wales? Not enough to even register one who-gives-a-shit. Last time I heard of anything Welsh was a maintenance man killed by a werewolf in Stephen King's Silver Bullet.
Bush flew jets. You're a spoiled singer. Deal.
You're wearing me down QM. I actually agree with almost everything you just said. Will this cost me some power points or something?
Really though I dont respond well to criticisms from across the pond right now, I dont think they have our back, I'm not sure they have their own back.


Heh. I guess i better say something like "Welcome to the UK, bitch!" Nice insult. But don't get too in-depth with QM, i suspect he's actually just a cleverly programmed bot that repeats political catchphrases and buzzwords from fox news.

For example - margaret thatcher was in power up until 1990 and elected 11 years before that. So i think it's fairly safe to say that she was in charge of "Britain" 20 years ago. Margaret thatcher was not a socialist - she was incredibly critical of it, and her policies reflected that.

Many of Britain's big state owned companies/whatever were privatised, john major followed and was himself a thatcherite, followed by labour around the millennium who were more willing to adopt in-place conservative economic policies.

So it's relatively safe to say that britain has become significantly less socialist since 30 years ago and was well into that stride 20 years ago.

But of course, he's just a political catchphrase bot, that's why he said "Britain's been defeated by socialism since...", there's no meaning behind it.

I'm no expert on politics (which makes me immediately more qualified than QM), but i think one word you couldn't apply to margaret thatcher's britain is socialist.

We're IN a shit state because of thatcher. The Britain we all remember fondly? Amazing NHS, schools, industry, army, politeness, fairness? That's pre-80s britain, dude.

>> ^csnel3:

>> ^quantumushroom:
Oh, where to begin?
There are probably dozens of these moments on the scorecard of every celebrity, great and small. I'll even give Obama a free pass for calling Hawaii "ASIA" during one of his many campaign stopstaxpayer-funded vacations important meetings. Props to the libmedia who downplay His Earness's gaffes. His larger gaffes, like the economy, price of gasoline, failures as Commander-In-Chief, we'll leave to the few history books not written by leftards.
Referring to this BBC show: no one across the pond should be calling anyone here dumb. USA may be almost a police state, but Britain's been disarmed and defeated by socialism for decades. Bankrupt Eurounion. Smile for the 10,000,000 cameras, serfs.
Wales? Not enough to even register one who-gives-a-shit. Last time I heard of anything Welsh was a maintenance man killed by a werewolf in Stephen King's Silver Bullet.
Bush flew jets. You're a spoiled singer. Deal.
You're wearing me down QM. I actually agree with almost everything you just said. Will this cost me some power points or something?
Really though I dont respond well to criticisms from across the pond right now, I dont think they have our back, I'm not sure they have their own back.


Since when has criticism of your most retarded president been aimed at you or Americans? She certainly wasn't labelling you all, was she.

George W. Bush walks into a room.

His supporters stand.

His detractors turn their backs.

QM drops to his knees, opens mouth, sticks out tongue, closes eyes....

I'm sorry, this isn't a Bush thickism.

Considering the United States is comprised, mainly, of immigrants and their children, assuming someone in America is American is just playing the odds. Immigrants don't just lose their accents once they've completed naturalization.

Considering the US has a global reach of media, and Wales doesn't, one shouldn't assume anyone knows dick about Wales, and it's "media empire". This wouldn't be like "I'm from Australia." "Oh, that's just outside Texarcana, isn't it? Yeehaw!"

Now, I'm Canadian, and I knew England, Scotland, and Ireland are separate countries, in name if not practice, but even I never heard of Wales being separate, just harder to understand. So to be fair, someone with a bit more on their plate than idle anglophilia could be excused for a simple mistaken assumption.

>> ^Payback:

I'm sorry, this isn't a Bush thickism.
Considering the United States is comprised, mainly, of immigrants and their children, assuming someone in America is American is just playing the odds. Immigrants don't just lose their accents once they've completed naturalization.
Considering the US has a global reach of media, and Wales doesn't, one shouldn't assume anyone knows dick about Wales, and it's "media empire". This wouldn't be like "I'm from Australia." "Oh, that's just outside Texarcana, isn't it? Yeehaw!"
Now, I'm Canadian, and I knew England, Scotland, and Ireland are separate countries, in name if not practice, but even I never heard of Wales being separate, just harder to understand. So to be fair, someone with a bit more on their plate than idle anglophilia could be excused for a simple mistaken assumption.


Welsh accent doesn't sound American or even close. Pretty sure any British accent does not sound American or come close. Australian and English, perhaps, although i can't hear it, I accept a lot of people get that mixed up. Never ever heard of anyone mistaking any British accent for an American one, regardless of your immigration point.

"Even you" hehe

This has all gotten a bit off topic. Her original point, turns out isn't valid. However, given Bush's long history of plankism, I think it's fairly safe to say that there is something amiss somewhere along the line.

"too bad that being president requires a few more smarts than flying an F-102. Or getting a "C+" college GPA."

Comments on GWB flying
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=8376

I have no interest in Wales (or whales, for that matter). People have different interests. If I win a free plane ticket to Wales I'll learn more about Wales before selling the ticket.

Yeah, you can make the argument that Bush and every other president is "campaigning" every time he stepped in front of a camera, but Bush also made real decisions, right or wrong. His Earness? Not a leader.

>> ^kymbos:

I was referring to your ignorance of the Welsh. As for 'campaign stops/taxpayer funded vacations', do you mean like this:

I take no pleasure in Britain quickening demise; anywhere socialism rises, freedom falls, that's how it always ends. Fortunately, neither my being a bot or you being a non-expert will make this explanation difficult:

People have unlimited wants and a supposed set of finite needs. When socialists attempt to satisfy basic needs (with other people's money) it works at first, until people realize they can satisfy more of their wants by relabeling them needs (or rights). Health care is a right. Daycare is a right. Living wage is a right, etc.

British "conservatism" is a far cry from American conservatism. Define it as, "Too little, too late".

Britain leads Europe in the proportion of single mothers and co-leads the European Union in violent crime, alcohol and drug abuse, obesity and sexually transmitted diseases. Yep, that must all be due to conservatism! Certainly the welfare state wouldn't destroy people's interest in helping themselves.




>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^csnel3:
>> ^quantumushroom:
Oh, where to begin?
There are probably dozens of these moments on the scorecard of every celebrity, great and small. I'll even give Obama a free pass for calling Hawaii "ASIA" during one of his many campaign stopstaxpayer-funded vacations important meetings. Props to the libmedia who downplay His Earness's gaffes. His larger gaffes, like the economy, price of gasoline, failures as Commander-In-Chief, we'll leave to the few history books not written by leftards.
Referring to this BBC show: no one across the pond should be calling anyone here dumb. USA may be almost a police state, but Britain's been disarmed and defeated by socialism for decades. Bankrupt Eurounion. Smile for the 10,000,000 cameras, serfs.
Wales? Not enough to even register one who-gives-a-shit. Last time I heard of anything Welsh was a maintenance man killed by a werewolf in Stephen King's Silver Bullet.
Bush flew jets. You're a spoiled singer. Deal.
You're wearing me down QM. I actually agree with almost everything you just said. Will this cost me some power points or something?
Really though I dont respond well to criticisms from across the pond right now, I dont think they have our back, I'm not sure they have their own back.

Heh. I guess i better say something like "Welcome to the UK, bitch!" Nice insult. But don't get too in-depth with QM, i suspect he's actually just a cleverly programmed bot that repeats political catchphrases and buzzwords from fox news.
For example - margaret thatcher was in power up until 1990 and elected 11 years before that. So i think it's fairly safe to say that she was in charge of "Britain" 20 years ago. Margaret thatcher was not a socialist - she was incredibly critical of it, and her policies reflected that.
Many of Britain's big state owned companies/whatever were privatised, john major followed and was himself a thatcherite, followed by labour around the millennium who were more willing to adopt in-place conservative economic policies.
So it's relatively safe to say that britain has become significantly less socialist since 30 years ago and was well into that stride 20 years ago.
But of course, he's just a political catchphrase bot, that's why he said "Britain's been defeated by socialism since...", there's no meaning behind it.
I'm no expert on politics (which makes me immediately more qualified than QM), but i think one word you couldn't apply to margaret thatcher's britain is socialist.
We're IN a shit state because of thatcher. The Britain we all remember fondly? Amazing NHS, schools, industry, army, politeness, fairness? That's pre-80s britain, dude.

...and says, "Look at me, I'm rougy! Where's Obamarx?"

>> ^rougy:

George W. Bush walks into a room.
His supporters stand.
His detractors turn their backs.
QM drops to his knees, opens mouth, sticks out tongue, closes eyes....

>> ^alien_concept:


Welsh accent doesn't sound American or even close. Pretty sure any British accent does not sound American or come close. Australian and English, perhaps, although i can't hear it, I accept a lot of people get that mixed up. Never ever heard of anyone mistaking any British accent for an American one, regardless of your immigration point.
"Even you" hehe



The main point I was trying to get across was actually that equating a foreign accent (of someone currently IN America) with NOT being American, would be more prejudiced than assuming they were. The U.S. of A. F. Y. being the melting-pot of cultures it is. George Washington spoke with a South London accent. It has been noticed that at least one or two people have assumed he was American.

>> ^quantumushroom:

I take no pleasure in Britain quickening demise; anywhere socialism rises, freedom falls, that's how it always ends. Fortunately, neither my being a bot or you being a non-expert will make this explanation difficult:
People have unlimited wants and a supposed set of finite needs. When socialists attempt to satisfy basic needs (with other people's money) it works at first, until people realize they can satisfy more of their wants by relabeling them needs (or rights). Health care is a right. Daycare is a right. Living wage is a right, etc.
British "conservatism" is a far cry from American conservatism. Define it as, "Too little, too late".
Britain leads Europe in the proportion of single mothers and co-leads the European Union in violent crime, alcohol and drug abuse, obesity and sexually transmitted diseases. Yep, that must all be due to conservatism! Certainly the welfare state wouldn't destroy people's interest in helping themselves.


>> ^dannym3141:
>> ^csnel3:
>> ^quantumushroom:
Oh, where to begin?
There are probably dozens of these moments on the scorecard of every celebrity, great and small. I'll even give Obama a free pass for calling Hawaii "ASIA" during one of his many campaign stopstaxpayer-funded vacations important meetings. Props to the libmedia who downplay His Earness's gaffes. His larger gaffes, like the economy, price of gasoline, failures as Commander-In-Chief, we'll leave to the few history books not written by leftards.
Referring to this BBC show: no one across the pond should be calling anyone here dumb. USA may be almost a police state, but Britain's been disarmed and defeated by socialism for decades. Bankrupt Eurounion. Smile for the 10,000,000 cameras, serfs.
Wales? Not enough to even register one who-gives-a-shit. Last time I heard of anything Welsh was a maintenance man killed by a werewolf in Stephen King's Silver Bullet.
Bush flew jets. You're a spoiled singer. Deal.
You're wearing me down QM. I actually agree with almost everything you just said. Will this cost me some power points or something?
Really though I dont respond well to criticisms from across the pond right now, I dont think they have our back, I'm not sure they have their own back.

Heh. I guess i better say something like "Welcome to the UK, bitch!" Nice insult. But don't get too in-depth with QM, i suspect he's actually just a cleverly programmed bot that repeats political catchphrases and buzzwords from fox news.
For example - margaret thatcher was in power up until 1990 and elected 11 years before that. So i think it's fairly safe to say that she was in charge of "Britain" 20 years ago. Margaret thatcher was not a socialist - she was incredibly critical of it, and her policies reflected that.
Many of Britain's big state owned companies/whatever were privatised, john major followed and was himself a thatcherite, followed by labour around the millennium who were more willing to adopt in-place conservative economic policies.
So it's relatively safe to say that britain has become significantly less socialist since 30 years ago and was well into that stride 20 years ago.
But of course, he's just a political catchphrase bot, that's why he said "Britain's been defeated by socialism since...", there's no meaning behind it.
I'm no expert on politics (which makes me immediately more qualified than QM), but i think one word you couldn't apply to margaret thatcher's britain is socialist.
We're IN a shit state because of thatcher. The Britain we all remember fondly? Amazing NHS, schools, industry, army, politeness, fairness? That's pre-80s britain, dude.



Then you have once more constructed a circular argument in which you win.

If socialism is in place, we are defeated by socialism.
If socialism is not in place, we are defeated by socialism?

You leave no criteria for the answer to be any different, as far as i can tell this argument leads to the idea that even if socialism didn't exist we'd be defeated by it.

>> ^alien_concept:
>> ^csnel3:
>> ^quantumushroom:
Oh, where to begin?
There are probably dozens of these moments on the scorecard of every celebrity, great and small. I'll even give Obama a free pass for calling Hawaii "ASIA" during one of his many campaign stopstaxpayer-funded vacations important meetings. Props to the libmedia who downplay His Earness's gaffes. His larger gaffes, like the economy, price of gasoline, failures as Commander-In-Chief, we'll leave to the few history books not written by leftards.
Referring to this BBC show: no one across the pond should be calling anyone here dumb. USA may be almost a police state, but Britain's been disarmed and defeated by socialism for decades. Bankrupt Eurounion. Smile for the 10,000,000 cameras, serfs.
Wales? Not enough to even register one who-gives-a-shit. Last time I heard of anything Welsh was a maintenance man killed by a werewolf in Stephen King's Silver Bullet.
Bush flew jets. You're a spoiled singer. Deal.
You're wearing me down QM. I actually agree with almost everything you just said. Will this cost me some power points or something?
Really though I dont respond well to criticisms from across the pond right now, I dont think they have our back, I'm not sure they have their own back.

Since when has criticism of your most retarded president been aimed at you or Americans? She certainly wasn't labelling you all, was she.
I guess my response was a kind of " Nobody picks on MY little brother but ME" attitude.

"he didn't do many dumb things" this is highly debatable. Iraq, for starters. Decreasing taxes on the top 3 tax brackets was stupid. He did a lot of stupid things while on travel. Yeah, I think even most conservatives would say bush did a lot of dumb stuff.

>> ^lantern53:

Bush said a lot of dumb things but he didn't do many dumb things.
Try learning to fly an F-102 without getting yourself killed.

he was pretty retarded. still is. the man could party tho.

The man was just elected leader of the most powerful country in the world. And he didn't know one of the MAJOR territories of our closest ally. Prince Charles' formal title is "Prince of Wales"!

I would forgive him if it was loud and he really couldn't hear her and was making polite conversation. Otherwise, it's just Bush being the ignorant fuckwad that he always was.