Yes, I do wanna see it! Can I poke it with a stick?

Very cool. Any information on evolutionary changes from the current day species, or are these guys like sharks, who never seem to have the need to adapt?

Spiders, were you ever not CREEPY AS FUCK!

Reanimate it!

>> ^kranzfakfa:

Yes, I do wanna see it! Can I poke it with a stick?
Very cool. Any information on evolutionary changes from the current day species, or are these guys like sharks, who never seem to have the need to adapt?


The closest current species is Heteropoda venatoria from the Gulf states of USA. There are no major differences as far as I can tell - same number of eyes, same number of tarsal claws (2), and the genitalia (this is a male) seems similar, though only the dorsal view is shown - the ventral side is needed for a definitive ID.

Spiders do change a good bit, but 49 million years isn't an enormous amount of time given that they've been around for about 400 million years. They largely developed into creatures similar to today's spiders far before 49 mya.

Denticles... tee hee!

How about an ant?

>> ^zombieater:

>> ^kranzfakfa:
Yes, I do wanna see it! Can I poke it with a stick?
Very cool. Any information on evolutionary changes from the current day species, or are these guys like sharks, who never seem to have the need to adapt?

The closest current species is Heteropoda venatoria from the Gulf states of USA. There are no major differences as far as I can tell - same number of eyes, same number of tarsal claws (2), and the genitalia (this is a male) seems similar, though only the dorsal view is shown - the ventral side is needed for a definitive ID.
Spiders do change a good bit, but 49 million years isn't an enormous amount of time given that they've been around for about 400 million years. They largely developed into creatures similar to today's spiders far before 49 mya.


Thanks for the answer and props to you for knowing what spider genitalia is supposed to look like, good sir. I searched a bit for myself but all I found was more general information about spider evolution from some kind of underwater crab. Then again, what didn't evolve from some kind of underwater crab?

>> ^kranzfakfa:

>> ^zombieater:
>> ^kranzfakfa:
Yes, I do wanna see it! Can I poke it with a stick?
Very cool. Any information on evolutionary changes from the current day species, or are these guys like sharks, who never seem to have the need to adapt?

The closest current species is Heteropoda venatoria from the Gulf states of USA. There are no major differences as far as I can tell - same number of eyes, same number of tarsal claws (2), and the genitalia (this is a male) seems similar, though only the dorsal view is shown - the ventral side is needed for a definitive ID.
Spiders do change a good bit, but 49 million years isn't an enormous amount of time given that they've been around for about 400 million years. They largely developed into creatures similar to today's spiders far before 49 mya.

Thanks for the answer and props to you for knowing what spider genitalia is supposed to look like, good sir. I searched a bit for myself but all I found was more general information about spider evolution from some kind of underwater crab. Then again, what didn't evolve from some kind of underwater crab?


You're welcome. Well, a dissertation involving spiders will get you more intimate with spider genitalia than you could ever want.

my kids arent buying in to the "spiders are our friends!" schpeil I been deliverin whenever we see one in the house

i'm sorry, the earth is only 6,000 years old
hence, satan is fooling you

Jesus put it in there.

Where are the other 49 million spiders?

surely in 49 million years the huntsman could find something to improve on itself. this doesnt bode well for darwin.