Damn. I've been waiting for the revolution since '94 and what I've always been afraid of is coming true: When it finally comes I'll be too old to take part in a significant way.

But go kids go. Kick the generation "me" that is currently in charge in the nuts and please, don't let my generation take over. We're just as bad not so much in that we're selfish, but have a very much higher sheeple quotient than other generations.

quite a charismatic young man. He's going places I think...

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>> ^srd:

We're just as bad not so much in that we're selfish, but have a very much higher sheeple quotient than other generations.


You're always sheeple once you're old. We've all been beaten down one too many times. It has to start with the kids.

I swear I heard this same idea when I was in high school. I'm rather curious to see what part of "real life" that occurs after said education that silences such passion.

So they're raising tuition at Hogwarts?

Man, that kid speaks so well for his age, it's unbelievable. The anti-everyone but big business stance by Governments is so blatant these days it was always only a matter of time before this all happened.

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I find it... i don't know.. almost daunting that he sounds very very much like a young tony blair.

It makes me think about how he's full of vim and vigour like tony blair may have once been, and he took all his fire and passion, went to change the world, got distracted and ended up being yet another person that let his younger self down.

Not necessarily what happened, of course, it's just the flash of activity that went through my head as i heard the guy start talking.

Did he just say the most inspiring thing was that people joined a facebook group?

Oh dear. Personally, I fucking hate the way people change their pictures on facebook, or copy and paste something into their statuses, and think they've made a contribution. It's so ignorant of how much effort change actually requires.

And dannym, I caught a whiff of Tony in his voice as well. Frightening thought...

This is a perfect example of 'the gov't big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have'.

All he knows is that the gov't is raising the cost of education. He doesn't understand why. He just wants to fight the people who are controlling his destiny. He is not the one controlling his fate. He's a puppet of the anarchists.

>> ^lantern53:

This is a perfect example of 'the gov't big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have'.
All he knows is that the gov't is raising the cost of education. He doesn't understand why. He just wants to fight the people who are controlling his destiny. He is not the one controlling his fate. He's a puppet of the anarchists.


With speaking ability like that, they will soon be his puppets.

>> ^lantern53:

This is a perfect example of 'the gov't big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have'.
All he knows is that the gov't is raising the cost of education. He doesn't understand why. He just wants to fight the people who are controlling his destiny. He is not the one controlling his fate. He's a puppet of the anarchists.


It's a little disingenuous to say he does understand anything beyond the cost of education rising. Kids are intelligent. They are interested now, and when they get interested they'll learn. Don't underestimate someone because they are young.

>> ^kymbos:

Did he just say the most inspiring thing was that people joined a facebook group?
Oh dear. Personally, I fucking hate the way people change their pictures on facebook, or copy and paste something into their statuses, and think they've made a contribution. It's so ignorant of how much effort change actually requires.
And dannym, I caught a whiff of Tony in his voice as well. Frightening thought...


No you moron, he said the most inspiring thing was students, showed solidarity with public servants - whom they had previously derided for fighting against the government. It was part of the whole "a generation waking up" theme that was running through the entire speech.

>> ^bmacs27:

You're always sheeple once you're old. We've all been beaten down one too many times. It has to start with the kids.
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Nah, I don't mean now that we're ageing. I mean ever since. During my stay at university, germany introduced for the first time a tuition (from the state gouvernments, not the universities. And the income goes go fill the state coffers gaping holes, not to supplement the struggeling universities budgets). Then the university system killed the diploma system and moved to a bachelor/masters system which everyone thought was a bad move - except for lobbyists and politicians (its cheaper and moves students through the educational system faster, imparting less knowledge on the way, but hey...).

In both cases students all around me muttered and complained, but next to noone showed up at the demonstrations. My generation either doesn't get it or doesn't want to fight. Not sure which.

Ugh, the use of the word 'ideological' made me cringe. Otherwise it was a nice speech, and I appreciate the spirit in which it was delivered. However, being ideological is akin to being religious. Fuck doctrines and labels, just do what's right (I realize that it's easier said than done).

<stands cheering>
Yes!!
Dare I hope for the newest generation once more?

"The most inspiring thing, I think, was that just after Wednesday, hundreds of people joined a Facebook group... in solidarity with... members on strike."

Well, despite my identified limited intelligence, Raaagh, my listening comprehension is at least passable.

Your argument, if I am not mistaken, is that the students showed solidarity. I got that. My point is that showing solidarity involves more than joining a facebook group. It involves dedication, time, and effort. It involves more than pressing a fucking 'like' button on facebook.

That is not a criticism directed exclusively at 15 year olds. I'm in my 30s and it appears to be how my generation 'gets involved'. It disrespects those who actually make the effort to genuinely involve themselves in social causes.

as good as it is for this kid to have found a voice at such a young age, it's even more critical that he learn to hone his rhetoric to rise above the ordinary political rant to become a voice of inspiration and insight, to cut through the lies and evoke the authentic will to act meaningfully in the world.

I feel like He Has A Dream.

>> ^kymbos:

Your argument, if I am not mistaken, is that the students showed solidarity. I got that. My point is that showing solidarity involves more than joining a facebook group. It involves dedication, time, and effort. It involves more than pressing a fucking 'like' button on facebook.

This argument always annoys me -- They're organizing. Facebook is the new social forum, and attracting clicks is a show of attracting popular support. A "Like" on a Facebook site could represent a vote in a public election. A few posts on a blog can start a political movement. The leaders of the youngest generation use these technologies to connect with each other across the entire world, and they'll understand how to translate that effort into power better than anyone because they grew up with it.

There will always be those who aren't willing to do more than go to the polls or press "Like" on a page or stick a magnet of a colored ribbon on their car, but that doesn't mean that the activist who showed up at a rally in the '60s isn't behind his computer on an IRC channel today. It was through IRC that Anonymous mounted attacks on several establisment websites, and it was WikiLeaks that exposed the new battleground of ideology and power for the world to see. On the other side, a bank can force someone out of a home the bank doesn't even own through the power of computer software that runs without a single human checking it at any point. Companies are able to stifle and empower the flow of information at their discretion without recourse or review.

The war for our future is being fought in cyberspace. As such, Facebook seems a good a place as any to find a few like-minded friends.

Translation: "I WANT EVERYTHING IN LIFE FOR FREE....AND YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT!"

A real revolutionary fights for freedom and its inherent risks, not for more nannycare.

I cannot say this about all young people, despite the charisma and amazing public speaking talent that this young man has, I still believe that 95% of young people today have no idea what is going on in their world beyond facebook and twitter.

But what a great and passionate speaker this guy is. Its refreshing to hear someone speak from their mind and heart, rather than note cards and teleprompters. It was GREAT to not hear phrases such as "ummm", "and like", and "know what Im sayin" every 3rd word.

Great, just what we need, another young kid thinking he's entitled to everything, with an amazing speaking ability.

Honestly QM,
I have never seen you write a single commendation, or at least, a constructive comment. You are so grumpy because the world is not as it used to be and now you don't get the advantage of being a white american male anymore. You, like many people in the South, have lost everything, and you cling to the glorious past through blatant conservatism or through unfounded elitism (race, sexuality, heritage). Either way, your bluffing your way through life, telling people that they are ignorant and deserve less when they obviously are future-centric and not past-centric like yourself.

Prove me wrong, say something nice for a change!

>> ^quantumushroom:

Translation: "I WANT EVERYTHING IN LIFE FOR FREE....AND YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT!"
A real revolutionary fights for freedom and its inherent risks, not for more nannycare.

This in no way was us students asking for everything for free. If you believe that, then you truely are ignorant and moronic. There are two arguments in this. The first being the increase. University costs enough as it is without having it increased almsot three-fold. There are far better ways to reduce spending (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYtNwmXKIvM), and higher education is not one of them.

The other problem is lack of trust in politics. Yes, sure, when you form a coalition, sacrifices need to be made, but when you make a policy which got you a large majority of your votes, you should fight for it. This, to me, amplifies the cowardice and lack of trust in politics.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Translation: "I WANT EVERYTHING IN LIFE FOR FREE....AND YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT!"
A real revolutionary fights for freedom and its inherent risks, not for more nannycare.


Ok, I don't care what your views and convictions are. I'm just trying to figure out in WHAT universe can you justify a 300% tuition increase from one year to another?

Prove me wrong, say something nice for a change!

You're young and ignorant but there's hope: both diseases are curable.


Ok, I don't care what your views and convictions are. I'm just trying to figure out in WHAT universe can you justify a 300% tuition increase from one year to another?

It's outrageous to me as well. But long ago the English gave up their liberty for security. They have no right to complain when the government they made big enough to give them everything flexed its muscle to take some things away, or in this case, just not pay.

>> ^KarlHungus:

Ugh, the use of the word 'ideological' made me cringe. Otherwise it was a nice speech, and I appreciate the spirit in which it was delivered. However, being ideological is akin to being religious. Fuck doctrines and labels, just do what's right (I realize that it's easier said than done).


I think you're confusing ideology (which simply means that you have specific ideas about how you think things should be) with dogmatism (acting as though your principles are incontrovertibly true).

It's easy to lose sight of the distinction, given the way politics gets practiced these days, but they are not synonymous.

To be non-ideological is to just passively participate in a society and keep yourself willfully ignorant or dispassionate about any injustices within it.

It's not exactly a state of being one should aspire to...

>> ^KarlHungus:
Fuck doctrines and labels, just do what's right


Yea, that's not a bad ideology. Stick with it!

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