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sfjocko says...

i respectfully disagree, westy. i do not think it's a stupid question, nor do i think it should be minimized and relegated to a grammar school subject. i actually do not understand why it upsets you so.

you say it's a grammar school question, but then imply that it is perhaps too difficult for people with no knowledge of the subject who would be left out of the conversation. so, is it too simple or too difficult, i can't tell which you think it is.

now, if it is a relatively knowledge-specific topic that would leave people out in the cold (which i do not think is the case; even grammar-school dropouts can join in the discussion if the dialogue is friendly) -- but if it were an advanced a topic that "regular folks" would be challenged participating in, i do not think that constitutes a reason to censor the discussion. in fact, i think that is a poor reason to censor the discussion. banish all discussion of advanced subjects and pretty soon you have an ignorant populace.

why does this rile you up so?

Origin of Love - from Hedwig and the Angry Inch

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Wig in a Box - from Hedwig and the Angry Inch

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Katie Couric Interviews George W. Bush

sfjocko says...

touche, Snake.

The enemy. The enemy. He keeps on about "the enemy" in his simple-minded way.

Reminds me something I overheard the other day:
Mom to child, getting him to put his toys away: Timmy, bring your tricycle inside, or a bad man will come and steal it.

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Wig in a Box - from Hedwig and the Angry Inch

Origin of Love - from Hedwig and the Angry Inch

Matt Lauer Corners Bush on Torture

sfjocko says...

Funny thing is, kadampa, that Bush himself insists over and over and over that we do not torture. Even he knows it's a line Americans hate to cross. Sure, he's not done working his propa-magic on the weaker-minded such as yourself, and who knows where he'll manage to take y'all in the next two years. But the America I grew up in did not stand for torture, and it did not allow its citizens to be arrested and held incommunicado for years.

We have arrested and tortured, in some cases killed, hundreds of innocent people, if not thousands. That does not rest easy with me kadampa. You can play puerile games and talking nonsense about islamic fascists all you want, I cannot. You can talk about us torturing only one person all you want. I am an adult, and I deal with the real world. And I feel responsibility for what my country does. We are torturing and killing innocent people. The facts are indesputable. You want to justify that, go right ahead. I have a problem with it, especially when it's done in my name.

Yes, finally, in Bush's America you can have open discussions on the virtues of torture. I had hoped we'd evolved as a society beyond animalistic retribution against anyone who looks like our phantom enemy. Ahh, but I forget we have a president who does not believe in evolution.

But please don't pretend this is just a matter of differing political views. This goes beyond politics, to ethics. Want to hide behind 911 as justification for torture and murder of civilians? Go ahead, it's all you've got. But I think I'll stay here in the real world, where murders don't cancel each other out.

And please, who here advocated special rights for terrorists? Nobody. Like Bush's strawman arguments, or your lamebrained reference to "islamic fascists", you mouth the words you hear, but they do not jibe with reality. Which, by the way, exists.

Oh, and if you advocate torture, yes, I do consider you my moral inferior. It does not make me happy, and I have pity for you and your delusional views. It is wrong. It is not debatable. It is wrong. Blows my mind that in Bush's America there are people who actually advocate it. The country in which I was born may well be dead.


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sfjocko says...

corrected, invader. thank you. i had just been watching more of shatner's roast, and my brain was stuck in the greater mashup world, where star trek, monty python, james bond, legos, mario brothers, and green-screen-light-saber Colbert all live under one roof, and i got confused.

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kabuki actor dances to yo-yo ma playing bach cello suite

sfjocko says...

This is an beautiful combination, the music and the dancing.

(So, for curiousity and cultural literacy's sake, I followed up on my inkling that "kabuki" is something different than this, so googled and found ... -- kabuki is characterized by heavy makeup, elaborate costumes, etc. I am not sure what style we are observing here, in this vid, but but I think it's much more subtle and delicate than kabuki. I think. (http://web-japan.org/factsheet/kabuki/costume.html)

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sfjocko says...

given the change, does it matter that i change my avatar with my mood, whim, and state of mind?

krupo: a counting school. cute. reading through some of your postings, i find i'm very glad not to be you right now.



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