Ok, the reason the army has benefits as it does it because of the risk factor. You do what your told to, thats part of what joining the army is, so dont complain about the repercussions, there are plenty of other ways to pay for college.

Now, about my harping, your first link didnt work for me for some reason so if could send me the text or summarize it that would be great and ill get abck to u (I really do wanna hear what your argument is, im not just here to start fights)

The 2nd 1 basicaly said, making a bomb from two chemicals that are harmless seperated, yet explosive together is really hard. So is hijacking several planes and flying them into buildings and being succesfull in 3 out of 4 instances... Simply because its hard, that doesnt mean its not impossible. Think about this, these terrorist groups are hiding in caves all day thinking up complicated ways to commit mass murders without getting found. I think they have time on their hands to figure out how to make these complicated bombs, its not like they're wasting their time going to see "You me and dupree"... they are 100% committed to killing us...

Pre-9/11 we never would have thought that there was going to be a hi-jacking resulting in thousands of deaths, so of course we're gonna have the same attitude about this warfare technique before its actualy carried out. (I realize that they probably didnt chemicals like that german guy in die hard with a vengance, but i would bet they have enough fire power to take down a plane, who knows, maybe they even supplemented it with some poiseness snakes) <--- Thats how bad your jokes are when your this tired....
Also, first people said that i was too old to join the army, then i was too young, you guys dont even know if im in the army or not, dont speculate on the characteristics of me, lets just talk politics (and you guys can make fun of my spelling too)

Lastly, when you guys make a post in response to me, i adress every issue which you covered, if your gonna criticize me, dont do a half assed job, use your entire liberal ass...

Ok, now i know i said i wouldnt check this for a while because i would be busy but now i really mean it, see you hippies in a few days.... im going to bed...

Ok im writing these things at like 1am after im exhausted and pissed off readin all your left wing nonsense. So i dont think my spelling really matters, of course i know that its spelled colonel.

The events a few days ago were carried out by Terrorist groups. Now please tell me what their justification was for 9/11. They did it because they are Muslims who abuse the ambiguities and vagueness of the Koran and because we are the evil infadels. They would have attacked us again for the same reason with or without our invasion to iraq... only they would have had their buddy sadam on their side (who btw would still be in power in not for my political party)... and even yours knows that, otherwise they would have nominated Dean... unfortunantly he took a stance against the war and then we captured sadam the best the left could do was nominate an assclown who flip flopped. (Then complain that our canidate was stupid when he had a higher gpa then yours at the same school)

"We know that terrorist groups reside in iraq..." "They do now..."

Ok, thats justificationf or not invading IRAQ in the first place (when i previously said we should have invaded IRAN)That statement only justifies staying in there longer and finishing what we started, which is exactly what we are doing... instead you left wingers wanna set a drop out date which sends completely the wrong messages. The terrorist groups have a goal to shoot for because of you, rather then just knowing that we will stay there till they are gone.

OMFG ok i dont even wanna get into all your left wing crap about 9/11 theories. Someone else already made a hillarious rant abotu how stupid your way of thinking about that topic is, i will simply send you to him.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

And ok, the army is voulentairy... you join because you love your country and are willing to fight for its government. This isnt nam, all this anti-war "ooo the soldiers dont wanna be there" is a bunch of bull shit. I've even heard/ read interviews on NPR and NBC that show soldiers with no legs saying that we need to stay there and get this done so the next generation isnt doing the same thing.

Ok i realize the the circumstances are verry different and you all are gonna attack this saying that it has no correlation but look at Europe. There was shit going on in there for centuries, but all the wars were unconclusive untill WWII. It should have ended in WWI, but we stopped before the evil army was fully defeated, which just yielded a worse army. Today, not a whole lot of wars going on between germany and france... We need to finish the job in the middle east once and for all.

I read the damn article, and here's what i have to say. WE WERE FIGHTING A WAR ON COMMUNIST deuchebag... we didnt think that this guy with a 3foot beard was gonna be a huge problem compared to the freaking soviet union, and i think we had our priorities int he right place, do everything to defeat the USSR, and then worry about other shit. WHats happening today is bad, but the US isnt in jeopardy over it. Cold War= US in jeopardy.

Anyways that all my "right wing bs" for now, i might not be back for a few days i got a lot of stuff to catch up on...

Thank you for the warm welcome, i look forward to my return with lots of hate posts from the left.

Oh and ImmyRey, wait untill the war is over to make your judgement. I mean that both here and in Iraq...

Peace out ya hippies

Me:

"I welcome feedback on specific points because i love debating politics, but if your just gonna be like "ooo baseballlord, that goosstepping facist... dont waste my time"

Feedback:

"Sorry, but there's so much wrong about your initial post, and I can tell from your rhetoric that you're not interested so much in "debate" as reciting talking points you heard on talk radio or Fox News."

"I don't care what your politics are, Iraq was a big lie. Period. Galloway sucks, but Americans who support the Iraq invasion because they give a shit about Iraqis make me sick...they actually believe they CARE about them? lol."

Thanks for the specifics deuchebags... I can tell you guys are liberal because u know how to debate, when your wrong about a topic you just bullshit around with vague insults... fox news this, faux news that... I never once mentioned bush, or fox news, but i see you all are just ooo war supporter, must watch fox news and cream himself over bush... (btw, i come from a military family) Father: Lt. Curnal Grandfather: Curnal Great Grandfather: Lt. Curnal

Joe dirt on the other hand...

We supported Iraq in the Iran-Iraq war because we wanted to prolong it and make them both kill each other. If we handnt Iran would have just crushed them, and honestly, the more they destroy each other's army, the less we have to worry about.

Ok the link you sent me about Osama was from 1998... Last i checked that was during the clinton administration... and that was pre- 9/11 and pre-iraq so its completely irrelevant...

Vacationing, every president takes vacations... This president has a congress that he doesnt have to fight with on any issue besides stem cell research (which i support), so he has more time

And once again with israel, you send links with dated information (1997)... Also, why are u bringing up israel, trying to bate me...
(For those of you who dont know, the right wing is trying desperatly to keep the WMD debate alive by saying that sadam moved them to lebanon and they we could discover them now)... I know there is 0 truth to that rumor, so you should know that i dont believe everything i hear on fox news.

PS. (I get verry little of my news from Fox)... Nytimes.com, News hour on pbs, the mclaughlin group, etc.

Ok theo and joe dirt, lets hear it. Why dont u actualy take my points, say which 1's bother you... and actualy write something back about why they are wrong, rather then just being like... oo the right wing is so stupid.

And im ignoring the obvious? All the info that you have is what your little liberal media tells you. Watch/ listen to/ read any interview with a soldier who fought in iraq and they will tell you that they supported the cause for which they were fighting, and that people back home dont understand because they are not there.

And im clinging to my own political party? No, i have my own beliefs, we totaly screwed up in planning out invasion of iraq (we should have invaded iran first for 1)... but we need to have a presence in the middle east, or else shit like 9/11... 7/7.. and the attempted plane bombing will happen.

I welcome feedback on specific points because i love debating politics, but if your just gonna be like "ooo baseballlord, that goosstepping facist... dont waste my time"

Well, if we had not invaded IRAQ, Thousands of people would have died In plane bombings a few days ago.

Also, you all are listening to this as though everything he is saying is true, simply because he says so. He is a good speaker, but the main reason for that is that he gets people like you to let your guard down and believe him.

He speaks about the invasion of Iraq as though we invaded a stable government that took care of its own people. We invaded Iraq because our final goal is to take down terrorist groups which were led by Osama and Saddam. He told the world that "Iraq had no connection to the attrocities committer on 9/11" We know that terrorist groups reside in Iraq. We know that Saddam sanctioned actions against the US. How can you ever prove that Saddam's governments wealth didnt contribute to 9/11.

The time frame which he is using to judge this is rediculous. 14 months??? are you kidding? What stable government was formed in 14 months. It took a while to get public opinion to change so the Founding Fathers could write the constitution, and then we had to fight a war over it. That whole process took a hell of a lot longer then 14 months.

Also, in the beginning he says that 1 million people died, then suddenly it was 100,000.

The left wing needs to get a clue. I always see you people marching in groups and feeling all self righteous and feel like you somehow are enlightened and know the real truth. But next time your at your little march, imagine a plane flying overhead and getting blown up in midair because we didnt wanna invade Iraq and gain the intelligence to stop it. The attemped terrorist attack a few days ago proved that the war is saving american lives in the long run.

Wars are fought to make things better in the long run. People die in the short run. If people didnt abuse the Koran to make it say "kill the infadels" then there wouldnt be an issue.