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Joe Scarborough finally gets it -- Sandy Hook brings it home

Obama's Sandy Hook Vigil Speech

Obama's Sandy Hook Vigil Speech

President Obama Addresses the Newtown, Conn., School Shootin

NetRunner says...

All I know is that the "BANNING GUNS WON'T HELP!" chorus is about to start blaring their bullshit to try to drown out reality.

So to undercut that horseshit before it starts, today there was also an attack on a Chinese school, carried out by a madman with a knife. 22 were wounded, but nobody died.

Seems like using a gun really does make crazy people's killing sprees a lot more deadly.

Is this seat taken?

Tax the Rich: An animated fairy tale

NetRunner says...

It's a sad comment on our society that even when you explain what's happening in terms even a child could understand, we still have people like bob screaming "look over there!" right before sticking his head back into the sand.

If it was just him, it wouldn't be so bad, but bob's pretty much representing 40+% of the voting public.

That's what's gonna destroy us all. We're gonna have to eventually find some way to get through to these people.

Shelley Lubben On Abuse In The Porn Industry - (Very NSFW)

NetRunner says...

It's mostly a semantic quibble, I don't really disagree with you about this lady's credibility.

It just seems like American culture has been under a sustained attack by Orwellian wordsmiths who are trying to achieve through manipulations of language what they can't achieve by just making an open and straightforward case for their ideas.

We've seen a decades-long project to destroy the credibility of the press, which started with them claiming it's got a liberal bias (under the old meaning of the word, where this is assumed to be both unintentional and mild), while simultaneously saying all day on talk radio that "liberal bias" is a nefarious plot to brainwash people.

A decade or two down the road, you wind up with this whole counterculture of angry old white guys simply apoplectic about a series of supposed injustices committed against them (that never actually happened) by people who are prejudiced against them (who aren't actually prejudiced).

It is more than a little bit of a tangent, but I definitely get why calling her "biased" provoked this reaction from dft.

gwiz665 said:

Isn't it?

Well, she IS prejudiced. That's what I've been meaning with biased - I've been using them a synonyms. Evidently, that's not allowed around here.

Shelley Lubben On Abuse In The Porn Industry - (Very NSFW)

NetRunner says...

But that's exactly the thing dft (and I) would like people to straighten out in their mind. The word bias isn't supposed to be synonymous with "has no credibility."

If you want to accuse someone of being some sort of dishonest person who's making shit up because they're prejudiced, then you should have the courage of your convictions and say "x is dishonest" or "x is prejudiced", and not hide behind some BS term like "x is biased".

gwiz665 said:

You're abusing the term to such platitudes as saying "you're biased towards the english language" Oh please, spare me the bullshit. We're talking about a biased position to the point where it loses credibility.

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The 51st State

NetRunner says...

Cynical NetRunner says it'll never happen because the Confederacy will stop at nothing to prevent any further dilution of the whiteness of the electorate, and voting en masse against reasonable things is pretty much what they're known for.

Optimistic NetRunner says it could be that the Confederacy will wisen up slightly and decide that this is a perfect opportunity for them to start down the path of courting latinos in earnest, since it's becoming obvious even to them that they're going to need to enlist the help of at least one of the non-white demographic groups if they're ever going to destroy the New Deal and return America to the rigid class system they enjoyed before Lincoln fucked it all up by freeing the slaves.

And yes, I realize there's not an awful lot of daylight between optimistic and cynical NetRunner these days...

Karl Rove on what went wrong for Romney-VOTE SUPPRESSION!!

Obama Driven To Tears: “I'm Really Proud of All of You"

Maddow: Time for the right to leave the bubble

Karl Rove Calls Fox News Premature

Election predictions? (Election Talk Post)

NetRunner says...

Inside election trivia, David Axelrod has won his moustache bet with Joe Scarborough. Obama has now carried all of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Minnesota.

Playing with an EV calculator, even if I give Romney all of Florida, Ohio, North Carolina AND Virginia, he still needs another state to get to 270. If Obama wins ANY of those states, he's getting a second term.

Oh, and I get the feeling the networks are just playing it safe on Ohio, all the outstanding votes are in blue counties, and Obama's in the lead.



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