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I have a HUGE fear of sharks. People would have been calling in saying they saw Jesus because my ass would have been running on water to get to the beach.

Ok I see where you are going with this. Yeah I get it now. I agree. Pulling your weapon is a choice. With all the training that should have occurred, it should have been very evident to the officer the possible consequences of drawing his weapon. I get it, your talking about the intent of drawing his weapon.

Of course there are accidental discharges. Yes almost always the trigger must be pulled (though there have been cases where it wasn't). Accidental refers to the intent to discharge the weapon.

Out on the range a friend of mine who didn't know what he was doing pulled the trigger while a man was down the line. What do you call that? Is that an accidental discharge? Are we talking semantics? What would you call it then? A unintentional near miss?

And criminally speaking, intent matters. That is not to say that a lack of intent will get you off or make something excusable, it doesn't. Intent can make the difference between bars and a needle.

Posted this on the other vid circulating around and posting here as well.

Well... I was a police officer long ago, I don't see any cause why that officer should have drawn his weapon, if anything he screwed up by not helping out with the physical take down. However, I watched this a few times and did notice something. Watch his left hand just as the shot is fired (the other vid has the sound of the shot), this looks like an accidental discharge.

The reason I say this is because of his left hand. His left hand looks like he was chambering the pistol which never should happen (there should always already be a round in the chamber), Semi autos should always be preloaded and you NEVER single action a double action revolver (I doubt he had a revolver). They say he is a 2 year vet of the force, but looks pure rookie to me. Also... sad but, if it was accidental, there will be pressures to not admit it, they rather fight it as a justifiable shooting, I will not explain the reasons for that as its too sad.

Total FUBAR

Looking it again, I am even more convinced the idiot was pulling back his slide, must have been a semi auto. Doing so makes no sense at all. His stupid finger was on the trigger and when the slide came forward it discharged. That's my 2 cents based on a really grainy vid.

One more thing, when you shoot, you shoot to kill. He holstered his weapon immediately, normally you would continue to cover the subject.

Had to be Accidental Discharge OR a targeted assassination (which wouldn't happen in public, wouldn't be just one shot and would not be done by a rookie)

Most police officers are good and competent people, but 20 percent or less aren't. They hold so much power and have such room for abuse with limited accountability that a few bad ones can really create enormous sickness.

I'm betting the truth will never come out, everyone will cry out murder and the dept will not admit accidental shooting unless they don't have a foot to stand on. They will come up with something to justify the shooting. That cop will be under a lot of pressure not to admit accidental discharge and certain opposing groups will be more eager to pursue this as a matter of police abuse rather than police total ineptitude.

Why am I not finding any expert opinions/analysis of this? Stuff I read in the articles I've seen so far has been total bunk.

Well, I guess I can be totally wrong of course.

last and final update: I saw some other vids from other angles, one of them had a pretty clear pic. I don't think he was chambering, I now believe that he did not properly handle his firearm. He probably has a nice little welt on the thumb of his left hand. he seemed to be a bit flustered, he tried unholstering from a sitting position which can be tricky - police holsters are designed so that they only come out at a certain angle so that someone from behind you can not take your firearm out in a grapple. I tried thinking of a scenario where I would pull my weapon in this scenario: The only thing I can think of is that during a pat down... if something was felt to be a possible weapon (we would have called out "possible signal zero"), at which point I might have drawn and covered till the search was complete. The other officers though, didn't seem very alarmed and were taken by total surprise by the shot.

I just can't see this being anything other than an accident (and total incompetence). Hopefully they tested his blood for possible intoxication and also checked his left hand.

Well... I was a police officer long ago, I don't see any cause why that officer should have drawn his weapon, if anything he screwed up by not helping out with the physical take down. However, I watched this a few times and did notice something. Watch his left hand just as the shot is fired (the other vid has the sound of the shot), this looks like an accidental discharge.

The reason I say this is because of his left hand. His left hand looks like he was chambering the pistol which never should happen (there should always already be a round in the chamber), Semi autos should always be preloaded and you NEVER single action a double action revolver (I doubt he had a revolver). They say he is a 2 year vet of the force, but looks pure rookie to me. Also... sad but, if it was accidental, there will be pressures to not admit it, they rather fight it as a justifiable shooting, I will not explain the reasons for that as its too sad.

Total FUBAR

Looking it again, I am even more convinced the idiot was pulling back his slide, must have been a semi auto. Doing so makes no sense at all. His stupid finger was on the trigger and when the slide came forward it discharged. That's my 2 cents based on a really grainy vid.

One more thing, when you shoot, you shoot to kill. He holstered his weapon immediately, normally you would continue to cover the subject.

Had to be Accidental Discharge OR a targeted assassination (which wouldn't happen in public, wouldn't be just one shot and would not be done by a rookie)

Most police officers are good and competent people, but 20 percent or less aren't. They hold so much power and have such room for abuse with limited accountability that a few bad ones can really create enormous sickness.

I'm betting the truth will never come out, everyone will cry out murder and the dept will not admit accidental shooting unless they don't have a foot to stand on. They will come up with something to justify the shooting. That cop will be under a lot of pressure not to admit accidental discharge and certain opposing groups will be more eager to pursue this as a matter of police abuse rather than police total ineptitude.

I can be totally wrong of course.

I have a question, why can't ships be made 100 percent water tight even in the event of a capsize?

*discard

Wouldn't pushing through all that ice burn massive amounts of fuel? Why would they take this route?

So this is what heaven looks like.

That was spiritual for me. Wow.

Actually I totally dig that room even though I don't even play 360.

Mini fridge in the wall will now be on my to-do list.

Which one?

omfg did anyone else notice she was hitting those melons so hard that she was loosing parts of her hair? Granted, it took a few viewings before my focal point moved enough to notice.

Ok, am I the only one who was thinking Dr Suess does porn?