Taking Out the Trash

Here is the problem.

Yesterday, an observant Sifter noticed that a couple of my old posts were dead links. James discarded them. I found other working links with the exact same content, but was unable to edit my posts because the videos were already in the dumpster.

Then I lost about 40 votes. Then they foreclosed on the family farm. Then the terrorists attacked and the stingray stung my daughter because I live in a Democratic party state.

Is there any way that the community can either establish a provisional discard mode that allows the original poster 3 days to find a working link before the post disappears. I don't want dead links clluttering up the place, but I would prefer to fix the link rather than start over and push them through the queue again.

These are the links:

http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=6264

http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=5503
James Roe says...

I fixed them for you and set them back to published. We need to address this as I realize it is annoying for members, I have to admit though it's currently pretty low on our list of priorities.

James Roe says...

heh, setting them to published sent them to the front of the sift, you've already gained some extra votes. Hopefully this won't become a standard way to game the Sift, I have my eye on you Rickegee.

rickegee says...

Thanks. Stop designing your perfect charter profile page (never be as good as mlx or benjee) and move it up the list. This site is being overrun with its daily influx of cool and wondrous modifications.

I just intentionally kneecapped all of my Andy Kaufman, Bindi Irwin and Mr. Rogers links. I am truly saddened that you must now discard and restore them, James.

winkler1 says...

I imagine that as a poster's (numPosts * averagePostAge) increases, more of them die. Past a certain # of posts, it'd be difficult just to break even. This could be a significant demotivator, and result in heavy sifters getting dejected and leaving. Not a good outcome.

Another consideration: Cool URI's don't change.

There could be a status of "missing" for a sift, and a benefit (1 vote?) available for whoever re-connects it. This would incent people to help for the greater good.

This post talks about how work gets done at Wikipedia.. the grunt work of formatting, applying consistent styling, etc. Most new ideas come from random visitors, but the veterans clean stuff up.

James Roe says...

We have been thinking about a dead links queue, that maybe users could get a post credit for restoring links. For instance while the link was rickegee's if you found a replacement winkler1 you would get a +1 post, but no votes. This would hopefully motivate people to check the queue every once in a while, and would be a way for people to move up the ranks.

lucky760 says...

There's no need, Mr. AngryPants, to move anything up the list. There's actually already a new back-end system built to search and find dead videos then email notify the poster that it will be discarded if not corrected, however, Overlord Dag has been holding off on running it. Perhaps the time is nigh for it to run, Darth Dag?

For the time being, I think all gold stars should start by notifying the poster (via profile comment) to update the embed instead of just discarding outright.

oohahh says...

I've always appreciated it when I was notified of dead links - as Lucky says - via profile comment, and I've started doing that myself.

Discarding videos without notification does the whole community a disservice. Our mission is (or should be) to have a compendium of the finest videos available. If we discard instead of repair, the site, as a whole, loses ground to our competitors. When we lose ground, we lose eyes, members, and you can see where we go after that.

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