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EV Global Market Share Exploding;

cloudballoon says...

I can't wait until the day where the world comes to its senses and gives a big "F off" to charging stations and use the swapping battery tech that some manufacturers in China is trying to implement. It'll be as easy and quick as what we do filling up a tank now. Maybe even faster and you don't even have to get off your car with the advent of robotics.



https://www.wired.com/story/china-ev-infrastructure-charging/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-24/battery-swapping-for-evs-is-big-in-china-here-s-how-it-works?leadSource=uverify%20wall

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a33670482/nio-swappable-batteries-lease/

newtboy said:

Interesting to get a video about all the competition Tesla now has, many with more advanced features and better specs and price, from Bob who usually argues that Tesla controls the entire ev market.
More surprising, the only Tesla news it contained was about their current financial struggle and how they need new revenue sources like sharing charging stations with other manufacturers, making it harder for Tesla owners to find one not being used in high demand areas (assuming they modify them to use standard universal charging connections).

The Insane Engineering of the M1 Abrams

robdot says...

The new defense spending bill includes $120 million for tanks that the Army has repeatedly said it doesn't want.

For three years, the Army in numerous Congressional hearings has pushed a plan that essentially would have suspended tank building and upgrades in the U.S. for the first time since World War II. The Army suggested that production lines could be kept open through foreign sales.

Each time, Congress has pushed back. Last week, Congress won again in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2015.

In a statement, Rep. Mike Turner, R-Ohio, said that Congress "recognizes the necessity of the Abrams tank to our national security and authorizes an additional $120 million for Abrams tank upgrades. This provision keeps the production lines open in Lima, Ohio,……

The Insane Engineering of the M1 Abrams

robdot says...

The army doesn’t want or need these tanks and has been asking congress for decades to stop building them. No one will vote to stop because that would mean jobs. They build these a half mile from my house. No politician is going to vote to stop building these. We force our Allie’s to “buy" them. Then we rebuild their infrastructure to support these massive behemoths. Our army has been begging congress to stop making these things.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

No dummy, it puts Elon in the stupid category (and you in denial again).
When he started posting images of Nazis, he went pro Nazi. When he reinstated Neo Nazi Andrew Anglin, he went pro Nazi. When he stopped blocking hate speech and threats of violence on his platform and instead reinstated those who made racist white nationalist threats and defended them, he went pro-Nazi.

So, Tesla ISN’T a good buy, it’s so bad you sold ALL your Tesla but NEVER stopped telling others to “buy, go all in, it will come back like gangbusters really soon, it’s firing on all cylinders” (but Teslas don’t have cylinders). 🤦‍♂️. Typical from you.

Lol. The market is rising. Other stocks are rising. Tesla is tanking. You only had one stock, it is not the market, you can’t judge market trends by watching one company.

Oh….so Biden’s administration HAS been doing exactly the right thing, and these mass layoffs you keep saying are coming because “Biden” will also be good. 😂

Thanks for the laughs. I can always count on my little jester to lighten the mood.

bobknight33 said:

Elon is pro nazi now ? This totally puts you in the stupid category

Liquid yes.
Tesla firing on all cylinders ..

US market is declining and will continue to falter. This will bring down all stocks.
Fed still need to raise rates and unemployment need to go up.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

ROTFLMFAHS!
The numbers are what they are. Sales down. Prices down. Profits down. Value down. Demand down. Monopoly gone.
Grows at 45%??? Only if you start from the years when it was worth absolutely nothing. Last year they lost over 51% of their value, in the last 18 months they lost even more than 60%, and every metric of future success is looking bad for them today.

A few years ago they had almost 100% of the ev market, with better options just now coming on the market they are already at 50% and are in a market share freefall.

Like I mentioned, Forbes economists all expect further TESLA stock decline, one expects it to reach $25 a share, but you know better. (If profits hold, I say $50 is realistic).

You again pretend you didn’t know that the big 3 spent tens of billions tooling up for ev production lowering their profits while Tesla has drastically slowed expansion (boosting profits) since they can already produce more than twice what they can sell and because their operating capitol has evaporated…and still their profits are shrinking like a shrinkydink in a volcano. 11% buddy. Down to 11% profit margin AND SHRINKING.

Are you saying Tesla stock hasn’t tanked?!? WTF?!? Really, I’ve got to hear this.

Lowered prices why? Because they can’t sell the cars they built. Duh. Also because the large government rebates are ending, making the cars COST more for customers without a price change. You blame covid (which you say isn’t real) but Covid isn’t hurting other manufacturers like Tesla.
I’ve seen plenty of F150 ev’s around…but still no Tesla truck. I see more ev’s on the road from every OTHER manufacturer daily, but the number of Teslas I see has plateaued. I’m in Cali, so I see plenty of ev’s.

Derp. I said clearly I called the TESLA STOCK crash. I told you it was insanely overvalued with a PE near 200. I did not say the stock market would crash, although I did expect a recession late 2020 possibly becoming a depression in 21…Biden’s leadership avoided that. 😂 Your damaged brain can’t stay on topic for two seconds. Jeebus.
The market isn’t tanking, my investments have done well for the last two years…unlike under Trump when I lost money….hand over fist in 2020. But I didn’t put every dime I had in one insanely overpriced inflated bubble stock like you claim you did….of course the economy looks shitty, your stupid investment strategy guaranteed you would lose your shirt.

Truth is, yet again, you can’t follow a short conversation without bending yourself in pretzels and changing subjects. That’s ok, I don’t write these for you. You aren’t capable of comprehension. That’s quite clear.

bobknight33 said:

Clearly you have shit for brains.
Tesla grows at 45%+ YoY
ICE manufacturers have been falling about 7% YoY in growth since late 2017.


You shit for brain takling points:
losing major market share -- ARE you on acid?

FACT they lowered prices 6 times -- thats true. -- Go find why.

FACT that now that they have competition,------ Where in your dreams.Ford GM VW ?? Not even close. by what measure are you using? The bolt is possible but it keeps catching on fire. BYD is the closest.


FACT that I called the crash before it happened -- Lets claim Bull shit. The market is tanking -- Yet to you Biden economy is on fire doing great .. Which is it nutboy?

Truth is, yet again you dont know what you are talking about.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

bobknight33 says...

Clearly you have shit for brains.
Tesla grows at 45%+ YoY
ICE manufacturers have been falling about 7% YoY in growth since late 2017.


You shit for brain takling points:
losing major market share -- ARE you on acid?

FACT they lowered prices 6 times -- thats true. -- Go find why.

FACT that now that they have competition,------ Where in your dreams.Ford GM VW ?? Not even close. by what measure are you using? The bolt is possible but it keeps catching on fire. BYD is the closest.


FACT that I called the crash before it happened -- Lets claim Bull shit. The market is tanking -- Yet to you Biden economy is on fire doing great .. Which is it nutboy?

Truth is, yet again you dont know what you are talking about.

newtboy said:

LOL. So I made a point to you, there is no one so uninformed. Nor is there another so devoid of knowledge and facts than yourself.

It’s a FACT they are still losing major market share at rates other car companies aren’t.
It’s a FACT they lowered prices 6 times now, and continue to drop in sales.
It’s a FACT that now that they have competition, they aren’t in demand and don’t hold their value like the competition does.
It’s a FACT that I called the crash before it happened while you were telling people to buy all in at over $400 per share, and I continued to warn it was insanely overpriced and a bubble waiting to pop….I was 100% correct. Economists expect it to continue to fall, Forbes indicates it may well be headed for $25 a share, definitely still falling.

I must follow Tesla better than you, because my predictions have come to pass and yours were all fantasy that never materialized. I think you listen to Elon, who has proven to be a total disastrous idiot who’s destroyed his own companies, not the tech genius he once appeared to be.
You simply cannot ever admit you were w-w-w-w-wrong. A sign of massive insecurity.

Um…operating margin dropped FROM 19% to 11%. Operating capitol dropped even more. Price drops aren’t improving slumped sales. Massive recalls are not only making customers unhappy, they are turning off new customers. Poor construction is not up to industry standards and new non Teslas are. Drivers assist has just been convicted on a $3 million injury/damage claim (with more in the pipeline while other companies roll out theirs.
Worst of all is Elon himself, who decided to become a public personality figure, exposing his far right politics to his left leaning customer base, his willingness to take any government handout while decrying them at every turn, his unbelievably bad business sense, his douchbaggyness and constant hypocrisy, and his penchant to pretend his best case scenario is a guaranteed future. He, more than any two factors combined, is responsible for the slump in sales and crash of Tesla and Twitter.

You blame the 2020 economy, but every other ev manufacturer is doing much better. You say they made 420000 cars q1 23…maybe true, but what good are they when they only sold 181,000. Making all those poorly constructed cars comes at a major loss. Derp.

The Insane Engineering of the M1 Abrams

Tennessee Republicans Ban Beyoncé

moonsammy says...

It sounds like a lot of what goes on at a WWE event might be illegal, per this law. Ultra-jacked dude walks down the ramp to some thumping tune and rips off his tank top before jumping in the ring? Straight to jail.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Jesus fuck….these morons you vote for, who vehemently oppose keeping the irs staffed and want to cut its workforce by 90000 are at the same time complaining on the floor how SLOW the irs is, that it can take months to get assigned an agent, and near a year to get a refund in many cases….but they don’t want to hire more workers, they want to drive off those that are left by removing their ability to telecommute and work from home. They are pretending that working from home is not working at all, but vacation.

I think their constituents would be shocked to see how much telecommuting the Republican representatives themselves do, especially if you consider it vacation.
More dishonest blame games over the repercussions of their own actions. More totally hypocritical stupidity. More “Do as we say, not as we do” because the right thinks rules and laws don’t apply to them….to paraphrase you, “only a fool would follow the law if it hurts them to do so”.

Typical daily hypocritical dishonest nonsense from your ilk, the most dishonest group of people to ever stain the planet.

In case you aren’t aware, this is one more red herring to distract you from their refusal to increase the debt ceiling unless they get their way, because tanking the economy doesn’t matter one bit to them….they’ll just blame Biden and idiots like you will agree.

517000 jobs in January. Something else they’re trying to distract you from….the fastest covid recovery of any country’s economy thanks to relief for lower income citizens after the worst economic fall from Covid while Trump denied Covid and gave handouts to millionaires.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

ROTFLMFAHS!!!
You mean the Durham report report. (At this point, the investigations into investigations needs to go one more round. )
You mean the report on the corruption from Trump and his DOJ that used their influence to shield him from prosecution or the active international investigation into his alleged ties to Italian organized crime?

You love to say that right before I’m proven 100% correct by multiple reputable sources.

CNN hit lowest ratings after trying to cater to the right in the stupidest marketing move ever, or an intentional tanking of a political enemy by one major investor. Either way, so what? If free markets decide CNN dies…bye Felicia. You think I have some CNN love because your irrationality demands I do, because to you they’re some wholly untrustworthy propaganda machine.
Trump needed CNN. They gave him hundreds of millions in free advertising.

bobknight33 said:

Damn you are gullible.
No on know what the Durham report will say.
But you bought into the NY Times hit piece.

I know you like jerking off to these lies but seriously just wait till it comes out.

Also CNN hit 9 year low in ratings. No one is buying their lies, except you.

CNN needs Trump.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

He’s already said he won’t step down, and has gop support. They can’t very well remove him for lying and stay themselves. there’s no way in hell the GOP thinks him lying about literally everything but his name (and has anyone checked on that?) is more important than his expected MAGA vote.

That’s good you cashed out, but absolutely disgusting that you continued to suggest others buy while you were cashing out. If you told the truth and were still buying at 400 for the long haul last year like you were shouting to anyone who would listen, you lost at least 1/3-1/2 your investment by selling around 200. If you had listened to many here instead of obstinately contradicting all advice, you would have doubled what you got out.

Just last week you were saying I was wrong when I said it was going to crash. You said it was a great time to buy. It’s crash has nothing to do with an imaginary recession and little to do with fed rate hikes, it’s pure mismanagement that tanked them. Tesla has crashed twice as hard as average car companies.

Wait….are you suddenly saying severe covid restrictions by China were lifesaving and absolutely the right thing? …and now that they’re lifting expect major disruptions and death? Who is this?

Amazon got hit, I don’t know why, I don’t have any (but might grab some) so haven’t watched it. Meta was never going to succeed, it was an idiotic idea to retry “second life” with billions invested and no demand.

Many growth stocks are growing. My portfolio is growing, not crashing.

Again, there’s no recession. You just want to pretend there’s one to blame Biden. GDP grew 3.2% in q3 and is expected to be 3.7% q4.

bobknight33 said:

Santos and all need to be vetted. Let him step down. America has enough elected lairs.


I sold 1/2 of Tesla at 240 , a lot more at 204 and the rest at 190. So I'm just in cash. If I were to by at today price I would obtain just about 2x the number of shares I sold.


Tesla down 11% today and IMO will continue to fall. Yet to see the up coming recession Q1 Q2, Yet to see implications of all the Fed Rate hikes. Should see this start to appear on upcoming Q4 results.

Now that China has lifted restrictions Mass Covid infections and deaths. This will also affect global economy.

Tesla is not the only getting the snot beaten out of them. Amazon , Meta and all others taken hits. Growth stock getting harder.

This is a great opportunity. Take advantage of this upcoming recession and buy you favorite stock at steep discount.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

JiggaJonson says...

Oh? Would you like a link to the comment where you Saud to buy followed by the stock tanking further before?

If I were you I'd stop politically investing in a traitor.

bobknight33 said:

150 and falling just like everything else. Fud not helping but a great time to buy... I still expect it to go lower. Im sitting in cash.. If I were to buy today I would pick up an extra 1500 shares. FYI TESLA firing on all cylinders 50% growth YoY expected. These opportunities only come around every decade or so. The 2020 Covid dip was also a great time to take advantage of . Did you? I did.

The globe is in a recession not just Tesla -- Compare to Amazon and see.
Average recession lasts 18 months. Q1/Q2 2023 will be worse.

Jan 6 hearings was 1 sided -- a circle jerk committee . I would be surprised id the "didn't" find anything to refusal......... Just BS

No biker gear-- that's newt and his Antifa buddies.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Wow. My stream must be so strong that red wave seems to have turned around and become blue. So much for gaining 60 seats and a senate super majority. That giant red wave was barely a ripple so far, with a lot of blue mixed in. Once again, reality doesn’t resemble your predictions.

Fetterman just won. A Democratic gain in the senate.
Cortez Masto is well ahead, a predicted easy target for Republicans. The senate is looking safer already.
Warnock leads, but it’s likely there’s going to be a runoff.
Bohbert is losing.

Mastriano lost. Lake lost. Oz lost. Dixon lost. Trump lost.

Dems are ahead in most contested races, with mostly democratic leaning areas left to count.

Abortion rights propositions are winning.

Americans are apparently buying what Democrats were selling, even stroke ridden Democrats, and it’s being reflected in today’s votes so far.

Thank you Supreme Court. Your far right activism drove young people to the polls.

Edit: I guess you all are tired of winning?
Ouch, your red wave fails to materialize the same day Tesla stock tanks because Musk sold the first 10% payment for Twitter. Condolences.

bobknight33 said:

You pissing into the RED wave and it does not matter.

Americans are not buying what Democrats are selling and will be reflected in todays vote.

Ukrainian Troops Post Jubilant Videos Of Kharkiv Conquests

newtboy says...

You get a tank! YOU get a tank! YOU get a tank! EVERYBODY gets a tank!
Your move, Oprah. Russia is ahead on giveaway points right now.


*quality news…more please.

Ken Casey of Dropkick Murphys on an epic rant against MAGA

newtboy says...

Nope…and if a tiny victory garden and not wasting gas is all it takes, anyone can do it.
I live in Cali, with high grocery and the highest gas, the closest real grocery store is about 15 miles (there’s a market close, but expensive) and we do just fine on under $40k. My wife works over 30 miles away, she burns near a tank a week, I burn about a tank every 2-3 months.
I can’t understand why others can’t do the same where gas and produce are cheaper. I grew peas, beans, and lettuce on my balcony in an apartment in the Bay Area. Most don’t have such only because no one told them they could, and how. Sad, I taught myself and didn’t find it difficult, only a few failures over 30+ years of growing. I had a few years here when I grew at least one veggie for every letter of the alphabet (I think I didn’t have a q).

Green privileged? I do live in Humboldt, so you could say that.

bobknight33 said:

So you aren't loosing your shirt at the pump or grocery store.

Lucky you.

You are a rich man with your garden. Most dont have such.

You must be Green privileged



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