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The Economics of Nuclear Energy | Real Engineering

newtboy says...

Kinda lost me when he claimed wind creates 11g CO² per kwh with no reference, calculations, or explanation.
Wind energy production is zero emission.
Are they including every gram produced by every step of construction and estimating a short lifespan, but not doing the same for nuclear, which takes exponentially more resources to build, run, fuel, store waste, and dismantle?
I also have a problem with him saying more expensive, higher profit natural gas plants have better prices because they're much HIGHER than nuclear prices per kwh.
He seems to ignore the spent fuel disposal/storage costs, which are significant in both cases, but while the natural gas plants don't pay for their waste (massive amounts of CO² and methane), nuclear has no choice.
Diablo canyon refurbishing was canned after Fukashima, because it's got all the same dangerous issues of being in an active earthquake/tsunami zone right on the coast with no way to shield itself from tsunamis. Before Fukashima, they totally planned to revamp and continue operations.
His levelized cost of electricity slide conveniently ignores the cost of environmental damage caused by fuel production/use.
Include all costs, coal is worst, followed by natural gas, then nuke, hydro, wind, and solar cheapest. Geothermal is great, but only in areas where it can be easily tapped, which are few and far between.

In short, his vast oversimplification and inconsistencies in what's included in his cost basis make his conclusions relatively meaningless, imo.

Norway landslide sweeps homes into sea

News crew arrested on air in while covering riots

newtboy says...

It's media being targeted (far from the first time) by one faction of the government, police, under supervision of the military (national guard) after being under siege from one 1/2 branches for 3+ years, the executive and 1/2 the legislative.
Fortunately the right wing doesn't control the entire government or they would be in their underwear in a wood 100 miles away and their equipment (not to mention their passports) would be gone. And they would never dare mention the incident.
If Trump wins in November, guaranteed that's where we're going, state media only, police as a club against political enemies, constant military control under constant emergency declarations, cancellation of elections, and a long hard slide into dictatorship.

Make being a police officer special circumstances instead of a shield from prosecution and the trend will reverse the day the first cop gets the death penalty.

vil said:

This is not media being targeted by the government.
This is just a badly trained or commanded police force.
If this was the KGB they would be in their underwear in a wood 100 miles away and their equipment (not to mention their passports) would be gone. And they would never dare mention the incident.

This is democracy led by none other than the super intelligent and highly eloquent whatshisname whose solution to this situation is that more people need to be shot ASAP. The only hope is that the current administration is too incompetent to turn this into an outright military coup. But who knows?

Police reform? Gun laws? Stop putting people in jail based on race? Desegregate schools? Nah...

oritteropo (Member Profile)

bareboards2 says...

Oh dear. I knew you were halfway around the world! I am starting that slide into death called being over 65 and I am forgetting all sorts of things now. (I had to stare at my slippers for a full 90 seconds before I could remember the word. I knew they went on my feet though. Not that far gone yet.)

So yeah. Summer. We do something similar in about six months -- except it is light at 5 am and the sun sets about 9:45 pm. And never gets to 111.

I have been reading about your climate crisis challenges. My heart is breaking for you all.

oritteropo said:

There are few parts of the globe further from me than the Pacific North Wet

It was 44.1°C (111.4°F) here yesterday at 6pm and sunset wasn't until 8:42pm. Sunrise was at 5:55am.

But anyway, happy return of the light We have an excess, I'm willing to share.

Little Girl Puts On Lipstick All By Herself

newtboy says...

I am not typical, never have been. I think you know this. ;-)

My brother lied....he invented an invisible friend who "made" him do anything he was caught doing. "Ockie made me do it." I never once tried that.
I did try to lie about some things as a kid, sure, but I sucked at it and always told lies that were easily proven false, and my parents never let me slide. Between the punishments and never getting away with them, I consciously gave up on lying before I started preschool...I just sucked at it, it never came naturally, and it seemed to consistently increase the punishment I was trying to avoid.
Also, it made me dislike myself.

BSR said:

Children typically begin lying in the preschool years, between two and four years of age. These intentional attempts at deception may worry parents, who fear their child will become a pint-sized social deviant.

https://theconversation.com/why-do-kids-lie-and-is-it-normal-98948

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A BEAUTIFUL DAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD

AeroMechanical says...

I was on Mr Rogers once in the mid 80's when I was about five years old. You can see me for about ten frames on Picture-Picture going down a slide at Frick (or maybe Schenley) park. So you know, I got that going for me.

What song makes a girl smile?

Timelapse of a giant excavator moving to a parking site

BSR says...

Hydraulics lift the assembly, and then slides it forward to set it on the ground. Then the base lifts up and slides forward and then lowers again to lift and slide the assembly forward again. Repeat. The interior view shows the movement. Sort of like a ratchet.

@newtboy can probably explain in fewer words.

Sagemind said:

I see it moving, but HOW is it moving?

Infinite Tucker Takes a Dive in a televised race.

BSR says...

That's the difference between us, @newtboy. I like to create a purpose for everything. For instance:

The dancing skeleton was happy with his victory, which was no easy task, as we can all see, it cost him his flesh sliding on the rough track. The loss was worth the dream.

The dancing deer was his dear mother expressing her happiness for her dear son achieving his dream and her dream as a dear mother. Win win.

Don't dream it. Be it.

Mueller Complained About Barr’s Letter to Congress

bobknight33 says...

Funny how the left can't get over the fact that Trump won and the Muller witch hunt came up with nothing. Fake news just can't let go of their Hillary will win by a land slide dream.

Those who get their news from CNN/ late night have been lied to.

Muller letter wanted 19 more pages released at initial 4 page summary Barr release. Barr released the full report that includes the 19 pages few weeks later when Muller's team was done redacting parts.

Sour grapes, sore loser.

Liberal Redneck - Mueller Report Schmueller Report

newtboy says...

No, Bob, that's called projection. Your head has always been in the clouds.

There is obstruction there. No question. It will be assumed to be felonious obstruction without a full release of the investigation, something already being fought against by Trump even as he tells you he wants it released. This report specifically did not exonerate Trump, so of course he lies and says it does...and of course you take his word over the report summation itself about the report itself. *facepalm. I wonder why I talk to you, you tell me you think I'm intelligent, knowledgeable, and communicate well, but never does a fact make it past your ears (eyes). You admit Trump is a massive, professional liar and fraud, yet you believe every word he tells you. It's simply asinine and mirrors the actions of someone with serious mental deficiencies or disorders.

YOU want to play this game another 6+ years....with Clinton, a private citizen already cleared by multiple investigations over multiple never ending politically motivated accusations already spending 10 times the money and effort to nail her, and your bubble was burst and your dreams of charges went bust....but you want more...More...MORE.

No, I am not the one of us in a bubble....never was. I held no illusions that this investigation would publish any findings that would make a difference, being politically stymied as it was, nor that there would be any consequences if it did because it was led by republicans, controlled by republicans, and any consequences relied on republicans to do their job and not kowtow to their great exalted leader. Since you people are all brain dead sycophants who love Trump exponentially more than America I never had any illusions it might matter or change any minds. I was correct.

Funny how as recently as last week this report was all lies and a purely political hit piece, a witch hunt created by unprofessional frauds and liars and based on lies that should be discarded out of hand because it's so tainted it's worthless, and this week it's an unimpeachable Trump vindication (even though it's blatantly not) prepared by honorable professionals that did a great job. *facepalm

Now, the multiple felonious state charges in states not controlled by republicans, those might stick, but won't matter a whit to your ilk. He won't be jailed, so you'll gladly vote for a felon....again.

So the great divider gets to lie more about the findings and erode our international standing, political discourse, and civility farther and you get to kiss his feet and prepubescently thumb your nose at anyone not following suit....while our union dissolves and we slide towards dissolution. Enjoy. Your kids get to live in the hell you're creating.

bobknight33 said:

You head is lost in the clouds.

There is no there there. Do we need to continue to play this game another 6 years?

Your bubble was burst and you dreams of collusion went bust .

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Wernher von Braun explains the possibility to reach the Moon



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