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Starbucks meetup ends with handcuffs for 2 patrons

newtboy says...

Ok, it seems they did use the restroom and were noticed and approached, not that they asked to use it and were denied, I misunderstood the tv report. From their online report....

"The employees told police the men came into the store, sat down and then used the bathroom, according to Ross.
"Starbucks said that according to their company policy, they do not allow non-paying...people of the public to come in and use the restroom," Ross said. "So they then asked these two males to leave. These two males refused to leave and the police were called."

"We would love to meet those two men and personally apologize," Camille Hymes, the Starbucks regional manager, told NBC10. "We take full responsibility."
We take full responsibility and....we put [the manager] in a position that did not allow her to be set up for success or those two men," Hymes said
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Protesters-Gather-Outside-Philadelphia-Starbucks-After-Two-Black-Men-Were-Arrested-There-479809353.html

So it seems this is corporate policy, or at least a regional policy, that may just not be enforced in most places, at least that's how I read that.
Full disclosure, I don't think I've ever been to a Starbucks.

Edit: now I've seen an interview with a customer who said you do have to ask for the restroom code at this location, so the original report is looking more correct.

CrushBug said:

I guess even the "ask to use the restroom" is confusing to me, since all the Starbucks I have been in, the things are at the back of the store and you just walk in. Sometimes that is my first stop before I order a coffee. They are usually pretty busy, so I have problems how any staff member could know whether or not I ordered something now, or an hour ago. This is where it starts getting weird for me.

You have to admit the optics on this one is pretty bad for that store. I don't for a second believe that this is anything else that something that happened at that particular store and not Starbucks policy.

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Racing Pigeon Races Cars On The Freeway

BSR says...

When I was in elementary school my friend raised racing pigeons. We went on a field trip to Philadelphia and his pigeon followed us for long time. When we got back the bird was waiting at home.

It's Always Sunny in Europe

Payback says...

TV Sitcom, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia , this is a parody of their opening.

I've only seen one episode, where they all get addicted to crack. I can see why people like it, it's well done. Just not particularly funny to me.

newtboy said:

Always sunny, huh.
Does that translate to ....
'Springtime, for Merkel, in Germany.
Winter, for Turkey, and Greece?

Bill Maher: Who Needs Guns?

newtboy says...

EDIT: According to 'separation of powers...and the roles defined for each branch, the Judicial has full power to interpret the laws as they interpret them. Period.

Exactly....but now it's been re-interpreted to give a right to a single individual...300000000 times.
Yes, you could, but that militia must be well regulated (which doesn't mean it never wets the bed or cries about it's parents being mean) before it meets the criteria to be protected...technically.

Your contention that "regulated" as a legal term actually means/meant "adjusted", as if a "well adjusted militia" was a phrase that makes any sense, or did back then, makes no sense. You may continue to claim it, I will continue to contradict it. Unless you have some written description by a founding father saying exactly that, it's just, like, your opinion...man. Try reading "Miracle at Philadelphia" for context.

If Y and Z didn't exist, but are incredibly similar to X, then it's reasonable to interpret laws to include Y and Z....if they existed and were not EXCLUDED, it's up to the judicial to interpret meaning...the less clear they are in meaning, the more power they give the judicial. Today, congress is as unclear as possible, and complain constantly that they are interpreted 'wrong'.

It's not a simple matter to make any law today....no matter how clear the need is for a law or how reasonable and universally the concept is accepted. Sadly. It SHOULD be a simple matter. It's not.

The court never "jumps the gun". They only interpret/re-interpret laws that are challenged, and a reasonable challenge means the law is in some way open to interpretation.

scheherazade said:

Parsing words is fine.
Persons vs people is moot. People = multiple persons. Unless your intent is to give a right to a single individual, you're always dealing with people.

The flip side is that if the 2nd amendment only protects militias and their armament, then it protects militias. So you are free to start a militia and get armed.
(Again, by 1791 parlance, well regulated meant well adjusted. There is no prerequisite for government regulation re the 1791 English it was written in.).


"well, they wrote X, but clearly the intent was to also cover Y and Z" doesn't work when :
- Y and Z did not even exist at the time of X.
- Y and Z did exist, and the writers chose not to include them.
In either case, you end up legislating from the bench.

It's a simple matter to make a new law covering Y and Z. There is no need for a court to jump the gun. Just find the case by the classic scope, and inform the legislature of the circumstances so they can take it into consideration. Heck, there is no guarantee that they even want the scope expanded.

-scheherazade

The Nightman Cometh Special Edition

siftbot says...

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Its Always Funny in Philadelphia, The Nightman Cometh, nightman' to 'its always sunny in philadelphia, The Nightman Cometh, nightman' - edited by eric3579

The Nightman Cometh Special Edition

siftbot says...

Tags for this video have been changed from 'always sunny in Philadelphi, The Nightman Cometh, nightman' to 'Its Always Funny in Philadelphia, The Nightman Cometh, nightman' - edited by eric3579

The Nightman Cometh Special Edition

artician says...

Yeah I don't watch TV at all, this is completely foreign to me.

Educate me: I've heard of Rick and Morty ( vulgar Back to the Future ripoff cartoon, isnt it?) Why is that worth watching? Clever jokes? Social commentary?

Arrested Development is on my "to see" list, but I have yet to see it. What makes it worthwhile?

edit: Oh, and of course, I've never see this Sunny in Philadelphia show. Why is this worthwhile? This clip seemed like it could go either way, but it was meaningless to me without context.

Babymech said:

Wait what? Is this a serious question? Who the fucking fuck doesn't love Always Sunny? Am I missing something? Am I responding to a comment from 2002? How can someone not know and love IASiP?

It's the second-longest running live-action comedy in television history, and it's amazing ...do I also need to tell you to watch Arrested Development and Rick and Morty? Goddamn kids these days.

The Nightman Cometh Special Edition

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Buy These Tickets Or I Take Your Car

mxxcon says...

>Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey told Action News that Internal Affairs is investigating the incident involving the officer, 32-year-old Matthew Zagursky.
He’s a nine year veteran of the force.

Extortion, homophobic slurs...
How long do you think it'll take this shitface to work as a cop in another city?

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Hitchhiking Robot Treks Across Canada

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