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Lewis Black reads a new ex-Mormon's rant

bareboards2 says...

Hey! We got on the same page!

I did put "need" in quotes, because I am quoting people. Not to be pedantic. Ha.

Yes to everything else. Communicating. It is a bitch. English. Dang. And doing it via the internet? It is less communicating and more dueling monologues.

I think we did really well, though, over all, @newtboy. Thanks for sticking in with me.

Lewis Black reads a new ex-Mormon's rant

newtboy says...

Well, @bareboards2, given that after you say "choose" many times, you again go back to "I have heard people say they "need" it. ", as I read it, you are sticking with "need". If you now wish to only say 'choose' instead of 'need' I can now understand your meaning and move on.

If it's pedantic nit picking it's because I don't like that people are unclear...and I hate when they are unclear, then change/clarify their argument, chastise you for commenting on the previous (seemingly misunderstood) argument, then return to that argument.

...and if some humans have "chosen" opiates, then that also speaks to the human condition in the same way. Misguided people often choose things they not only don't need, and often, in reality, things they don't even want, because they ignore or don't know the down side of their choices.

The two are not mutually exclusive. I can accept (regard as true) the world as it is while also wanting it to be different. I accept (regard as true) many things that are not as I WANT them...I only refuse to accept (reconcile myself to) things that are not as I NEED them to be.
Accepting (regarding as true) something is the way it is does not preclude one from not accepting (reconciling one's self to) that thing.
(the issue again is, IMO, in word definition, but this time it's the fault of English...as "accept" means both 1.'to regard as true' and 2.'to reconcile oneself to'. I meant the former, while you seem to mean the latter. I often wish English did not have these multiple definition words...one that really gets me is "theory", which means completely different things to different people in different situations, a difference that has caused terrible damage in it's exploitation.)

Lewis Black reads a new ex-Mormon's rant

bareboards2 says...

Well, given that I say "choose" many times but you keep going back to "need" -- I'm sticking with pedantic nit picking because you don't like that people "choose" religion, @newtboy

And if some humans have "chosen" religion for millennia, then that speaks to the human condition.

We are talking at cross purposes. You want the world to be different than it is. I accept it as it is.

Lewis Black reads a new ex-Mormon's rant

newtboy says...

I have chosen a different word..."want". Some people want religion, because they think it helps them somehow. The same can be said for heroin...wanting something doesn't make it 'good'.

You can call it pedantic nit picking, I say the words have quite different meanings (one reason they are spelled and pronounced differently), and if people are lazy and use word/meanings they don't intend, I can't help but try to correct them in order to properly understand them before I can determine if I agree with them....(EDIT: or to determine what part I disagree with. In this case, I disagreed with the specific contention that anyone 'needs' religion, which you've seemed to have somehow read as a slight against religious people, and a directive for them to think as I do...which was certainly not my intent.)

I understand people SAY they "need" religion, but they have the same issue of not distinguishing between "need" and "want". No one has ever, not once, died from a lack of religion...but many have died from an over abundance of it (usually in others).

You would be incredibly wrong in that assumption. Much of my family is religious, as are many of my friends. We often have had respectful, deep theological discussions and they invariably come away with a new view point of what they had taken for granted, while I often come away with only a new example of how religion got it wrong or contradicts itself. I don't lecture them, I give them a chance to explain themselves, then I tell them where they seem to have strayed from reality (for example, with Christians, it's nearly always when they resort to the bible as proof of something).

Me thinks you protest too much, and understand me too little. I don't think I wrote any such dictation, I merely explained how religion is something people 'want' rather than 'need'. It is religion that is zealously judgmental, it's religion that dictates how other people should live and think, I only expressed my wishes on that front (after being prompted to do so by you), not any command. Please re-read.

(I hope you have noticed that I have refrained from targeting any one religion, as my remarks are applicable to religion as a concept and not directed at any sect.)

bareboards2 said:

@newtboy

I'll give you my brother's phone number. He went from secular to devout for a reason. You don't like the word "need"? Then pick another one and stop with the pedantic nit picking.

People choose to be religious all the time. There is a different word. They choose religion.

Why?

I have heard people say they "need" it.

I suspect that you have never had a respectful conversation with someone who chose religion. It takes time to get to motive. If you are lecturing them about how they are wrong, you aren't going to hear them.

So, I have a limit to how much time I am willing to spend talking to judgmental zealots who want to dictate how other people should live and think. I've reached it now.

(I hope you noticed that I in no way have defended religion from its excesses and crimes. I have stayed focused on individuals making individual decisions about their own lives. Rather Libertarian of me, isn't it?)

Lewis Black reads a new ex-Mormon's rant

bareboards2 says...

@newtboy

I'll give you my brother's phone number. He went from secular to devout for a reason. You don't like the word "need"? Then pick another one and stop with the pedantic nit picking.

People choose to be religious all the time. There is a different word. They choose religion.

Why?

I have heard people say they "need" it.

I suspect that you have never had a respectful conversation with someone who chose religion. It takes time to get to motive. If you are lecturing them about how they are wrong, you aren't going to hear them.

So, I have a limit to how much time I am willing to spend talking to judgmental zealots who want to dictate how other people should live and think. I've reached it now.

(I hope you noticed that I in no way have defended religion from its excesses and crimes. I have stayed focused on individuals making individual decisions about their own lives. Rather Libertarian of me, isn't it?)

The Tiniest Civilization

Payback says...

Yet another completely awesome thing that would have been ridiculously expensive to film without drones.

Not sure if this is truly tilt-shift, as all the focus blur is computer generated. Probably just being pedantic.

How a Retractable Ballpoint Pen Works

oblio70 says...

"I" think they handled this material excellently, however pedantic. Myself, I am in the process of compiling such research for a Vlogcast of my own which resides in a similar vein, to be called "Wicked Lost Technology". I plan to look at inventions that were once cutting edge, yet today are all but forgotten. These item still offer great inspiration for us today from a mechanical perspective and should not be forgotten.

The thoroughness of the Engineeringguy in this video should not be overlooked. He/they get(s) my applaud!

Nuclear energy is terrible

bremnet says...

Sorry to jump the thread here; not sure if dubious is the word either, but pretty amateur and more fear mongering with no supporting data.

First, the suggestion that no more reactors should be built because people use them to aid in production of nuclear weapons. Well kids, that ship has already sailed: In June 2014, the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute reported that nine nations (United States, Russia, United Kingdom, France, China, India, Pakistan, Israel and North Korea) possessed approx. 16,300 nuclear weapons in total. So someone builds one or 10 more? Yeah, that will matter. Someone needs to read up on the concept of deterrence.

When talking about waste: "Germany has literally tons of the stuff just laying around" - well, that's just horseshit.

Regarding accidents and number of deaths due to nuclear reactors: "devastating disasters every 30 years" - devastating? Come on, people died, but compared to other sources of energy, according to the WHO, it is by far the safest. Consider:

Energy Source Mortality Rates; Deaths/yr/TWh

Coal - world average, 161
Coal - China, 278
Coal - USA, 15
Oil - 36
Natural Gas - 4
Biofuel/Biomass - 12
Peat - 12
Solar/rooftop - 0.44-0.83
Wind - 0.15
Hydro - world, 0.10
Hydro - world*, 1.4
Nuclear - 0.04

* Includes the 170,000 deaths from the failure of the Banquao Reservoir Dam in China in 1975

So, if not dubious, certainly cheap and pedantic.

ChaosEngine said:

Can you provide a bit more detail than that?

What is dubious? Why is it dubious? Do you have any evidence to back up what you're saying?

Bill Maher - Ahmed's Clock Block

Payback says...

Pedantic French Mexican guy on Maher's left is pedantic.

Babymech said:

Jorge Ramos has never been Frenchier. That's why Trump kicked him out of his press conference; because that disgusting dirty Frenchy-French pretended to be a hard-working Mexican.

Bill Maher - Ahmed's Clock Block

I'd award him a 10

SquidCap says...

I know i'm been pedantic but isn't that a gurney? In coffin, you move feet first, in a gurney you roll with head first.. intead of a half a flip, it needs to be half a twist.

How do you distinguish Americans?

ChaosEngine says...

Being pedantic, yes.

So are Brazilians, Argentinians, Chileans, Peruvians, Bolivians and so on.
Also Cubans, Jamaicans, Haitians, Dominicans, Puerto Ricans (who are actually in the process of becoming a US state, I believe?) and other island nations of the Americas.

No idea where people from Guam or American Samoa fit in.


Bruti79 said:

Are Mexicans American as well?

Louis CK Probably won't be Invited back to SNL after this

ChaosEngine says...

Being super pedantic, but I think what you're calling "prejudice" is actually "stereotype".

A stereotype is basically a view that because X is true of most members of Y, it's probably true of an individual in Y. The view itself might be accurate or inaccurate, and it can be positive or negative, i.e. all Asians are good at math, but also bad drivers,
all Irish are alcoholics, but also great story tellers, etc.

Prejudice does imply judgement. It's right there in the name... it literally means pre-judgement.

JustSaying said:

Now saying "I bet all black people like listening to R'nB music" is just prejudice. There's no judgement here. Right? Unless you consider "he listens to R'n'B" an insult. How about "all polish people love ice cream"? Did you just imply polish people are all fat?
The difference between prejudice and racist prejudice lies entirely in subtext and context. It's not what you say, it's what you mean.
Prejudice is a tightrope made of blurry lines spanning over a pit of outrage. That's why politicians should not walk that way.
Being aware of differences between race, ethnic groups and talking about is simply being hones and probably not giving a shit about political correctness. We ARE different. That's the interesting part.

A Summary Of Steam's Stupidest Move Yet!

GenjiKilpatrick says...

@ChaosEngine

First world fuckin'.. PROOOBLEMs.

That's my new song. I made it to remind everyone that.

OMFG complaining about the inaccuracy of a parody is pedantic as fuuuck.

But I mean.. that's what the Sift is all about, it seems.

@NaMeCaF I enjoyed the vid. Even tho I already knew about the situation from @EMPIRE's Factual Gamer vid.

But you probably have a problem with all the facts in that vid too. Not factual, enough.

"The performance from the Valve & Bethesda guys IN REAL TIME was WAAAY more factual" right?

Should ignored comments be completely hidden? (User Poll by newtboy)

GenjiKilpatrick says...

Most of Videosift is petty stuff.

Many great sifters have left because of the clique-ish, self aggrandizing, first-world-problem-griping nature of Videosift.

The Siftquisitions that take place to "sort out" the squabbles are often times the most petty.

As I believe it was in my case..

(It was my causal, blunt-as-usual comment to Pumpkin or whoever that resulted in me being attacked & eventually banned.)

So yeah, Videosift is unique in that it is both petty & pedantic..

A decent - but flawed - idea.

..which why the rest of the internet has ignored it & its community.

Oooh well, it was pretty nice when it started.

Wonder how long it'll be before Dag finally shuts the lights off.

PlayhousePals said:

Fortunately, for me, I've yet to cross that bridge [not that I didn't come close when I first came here mind you]. The Sift experience has taught me how to ... 'not pet the sweaty stuff'. I am much happier now



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