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Payback says...

Garfunkel and Oates? What's next, a movie by George Spielberg and Stephen Lucas about a boy, Indiana Skywalker, who loses his adoptive parents but finds them on an ancient spaceship which crash landed in Bolivia, manned only by the ghost Force of Adolf Palpatine?

I sure hope so.

NSA (PRISM) Whistleblower Edward Snowden w/ Glenn Greenwald

artician says...

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, or one of the less-grounded members of this community (you all know who you are!), and I'm not trying to make this out to be the good/bad/evil scenario, i.e. Emperor Palpatine et al. I use "government" as a collective, general term, however I felt it was apt in this context given that people strictly within the government, and maybe lobbyists to an extent, are responsible for these various decisions that have led us to this point.
No, they don't seek power for it's own sake, but the handful of objectives I listed in my last post are a sampling of what might drive an organization to pursue power fervently.

There does seem to exist a greater, definitively single-minded pursuit of lessening the civil rights of US citizens since the turn of the millennium, in an attempt to have more power over them, and while "government" at large generally fumbles over itself when it attempts to get all the parts moving together as one, I believe you can see the broader cooperation happening here. From inclusion of said US Tech companies roles, the nation-wide abuse by the police force, aggression of US border patrol agents, random TSA checkpoints on some state highways, and the statements made by the president and his staff, which only seem to serve to blow off civil concerns with one breath while granting increased power to these same entities with the next.

At this point in a country's history, it seems to me that the only thing that can change the course of an entire nation is decisive action by it's citizens on a scale that would simultaneously qualify as an act that justifies all their overreaches of power. And I don't mean in any way acts of violence, but if there were a 5-million-man-march on the capitol tomorrow to show a mass appeal for reason and demand accountability, I believe it would be used as an example of why the government is pursuing such surveillance to begin with.

Sorry this is long winded, but lastly, I wouldn't feel too bad about Obama's allegedly targeting only foreign individuals. To me that felt like damage control to appease the US populace rather than an affront to foreign nationals. They said the Exact. Same. Thing. about the Patriot Act, and that was being used to arrest US citizens for minor infractions by local law enforcement not 6-months after it was passed. Disgusting.

dag said:

Quote hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

I think it's a mistake to think of "the government" as a single entity and capable of doing good or bad - it leads to all kinds of problems.

There are bad policies, bad laws, misguided individuals within government, people driven by self-interest, fear and prejudice, internal cultures that lead to incompetence and bad actions - all of those things - but no Emperor Palaptine in the woodworks - covertly angling for more power for its own sake.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant and that's what's needed in the US government. I like the French idea that a government should fear its people (as it does in France) and not the other way around.

Just the fact that Obama and his intelligence chief try to justify the program by saying that it only targets foreign individuals blows my mind - I mean WTF?? Don't we deserve privacy here in Australia? It's like a giant fuck you to the near 7 billion people who don't happen to live within the US borders.

It makes me so angry - especially that all of these American tech companies were in cahoots with the NSA - yes even Apple.

Two men + two Tesla coils + specialsuits = ELECTRICITY FIGHT

Dash-Cam Video Exposes Officer Misconduct - Seattle Police

Yogi says...

Again who the hell wants to be a police officer? It just seems like bullies. I put up with a hell of a lot more crap as a Referee and I take it in stride. I guess maybe if you gave me a taser I'd go Emperor Palpatine on everyones ass.

My daughter has chosen the Dark Side.

ghark says...

Choose someone as successor and you will inevitably be succeeded. Choose someone hungrier and you will be devoured. Choose someone quicker and you won't dodge the blade at your back. Choose someone with more patience and you won't block the blade at your throat. Choose someone more devious and you'll hold the blade that kills you. Choose someone more clever and you'll never know your end. Despite these cautions, an apprentice is essential. A Master without an apprentice is a Master of nothing.

―Palpatine

My guess is that her Sith Lord Master is not going to live very long.

Beware of the Wild Kung-Fu Master!

Happy Star Wars Day! - May the 4th Be With You

Stephen Harper steals speech from Emperor Palpatine

Stephen Harper steals speech from Emperor Palpatine

Mashiki says...

>> ^Payback:

If Harper is Palpatine, Ignatief is that other pod racer from Phantom Menace, and Layton is the Gammorean Guard Jabba dropped into the Rancor pit.
(The Bloq are those Bothans who died getting the fake Deathstar info to the rebels)


You just didn't say that the Bloc was were the Bothans who died in getting the fake deathstar info to the reb's did you? Well yes I see you did. I'm having trouble fitting the context, since the Bloc are xenophobic, actively anti-anglophone, and several other dozen things. Along with the belief that the rest of the country 'owes' them, and they should be able to keep getting money even if they leave.

Stephen Harper steals speech from Emperor Palpatine

Payback says...

If Harper is Palpatine, Ignatief is that other pod racer from Phantom Menace, and Layton is the Gammorean Guard Jabba dropped into the Rancor pit.

(The Bloq are those Bothans who died getting the fake Deathstar info to the rebels)

Stephen Harper steals speech from Emperor Palpatine

Stephen Harper steals speech from Emperor Palpatine

Stephen Harper steals speech from Emperor Palpatine

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