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New Rule: Distinction Deniers

ChaosEngine says...

Maybe you should actually read the article before commenting on this?

Warning: it's a terribly written article that spends a lot of time on completely irrelevant details, also very NSFW, but to summarise (quoting from article):

When Ansari told her he was going to grab a condom within minutes of their first kiss, Grace voiced her hesitation explicitly. “I said something like, ‘Whoa, let’s relax for a sec, let’s chill.’”
...
She says Ansari began making a move on her that he repeated during their encounter. “The move he kept doing was taking his two fingers in a V-shape and putting them in my mouth, in my throat to wet his fingers, because the moment he’d stick his fingers in my throat he’d go straight for my vagina and try to finger me.” Grace called the move “the claw.”

Ansari also physically pulled her hand towards his penis multiple times throughout the night, from the time he first kissed her on the countertop onward. “He probably moved my hand to his dick five to seven times,” she said. “He really kept doing it after I moved it away.”

But the main thing was that he wouldn’t let her move away from him. She compared the path they cut across his apartment to a football play. “It was 30 minutes of me getting up and moving and him following and sticking his fingers down my throat again. It was really repetitive. It felt like a fucking game.”

Ansari wanted to have sex. She said she remembers him asking again and again, “Where do you want me to fuck you?” while she was still seated on the countertop. She says she found the question tough to answer because she says she didn’t want to fuck him at all.

End quoting.

I find it difficult to believe Ansari is "inexperienced". He's 34, famous, good-looking and funny. Hell, he wrote a damn book on the subject.

Now, even though I've lost count of the number of times I've said this, to be perfectly clear: I DO NOT THINK ANSARI IS GUILTY OF A CRIME.

But I also don't think that behaviour is acceptable. He acted like a total asshole.

But since we're talking about degrees of harm, you can still be an asshole and do actual harm without committing a crime.

Should his accuser have just left? Probably. Does that excuse his behaviour? Nope.

newtboy said:

From what I've heard he's accused of, I've had far worse from girlfriends who didn't know what men liked. He was handsy in bed and bad at sex. Have you heard otherwise?

What's more unacceptable is the movement to deny gradients of evil so he IS guilty of sex crimes by their estimation for being inexperienced with sex.

I have yet to hear a single thing he did with bad intent or in any way criminal or even ungentlemanly, just inexperienced or plain bad in bed.

Maybe there's stuff I don't know about this case? It sure sounds like a failure to communicate, which I place on her shoulders.

Who is Grace again? His accuser?

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Ron Paul & Barney Frank Introduce Law to Legalize Marijuana

MarineGunrock says...

Sorry. Sometimes I just get caught in the heat of the moment. >> ^blankfist:

>> ^MarineGunrock:
Ugh, you must be gay. I can tell because your cock tastes like shit.>> ^blankfist:
>> ^MarineGunrock:
@blankfist: I feel the need to point out that this does NOT legalize it.

And I feel the need to point out that my dick is in your mouth right now, jarhead. Would you mind scratching your chin? My balls itch.


So, I was fucking you in the ass and then you reached back and grabbed my balls and I was all like, "Whoa! Dude, what are you, gay?"

Ron Paul & Barney Frank Introduce Law to Legalize Marijuana

blankfist says...

>> ^MarineGunrock:

Ugh, you must be gay. I can tell because your cock tastes like shit.>> ^blankfist:
>> ^MarineGunrock:
@blankfist: I feel the need to point out that this does NOT legalize it.

And I feel the need to point out that my dick is in your mouth right now, jarhead. Would you mind scratching your chin? My balls itch.



So, I was fucking you in the ass and then you reached back and grabbed my balls and I was all like, "Whoa! Dude, what are you, gay?"

Military Sources Reveal Ground Force Invasion of Libya

marbles says...

>> ^KnivesOut:

If it was from (almost) any source other than Alex Jones, I'd be like "Whoa that's heavy shit."
But since its Alex Jones, my natural bullshit resistance won't allow me to accept it as anything other than the rantings of a lunatic.
Maybe he's right, even insane squirrels find the nut once in a while. Then they fuck the nut.


Any other source...like the corporate propaganda machines? Whatever, there's nothing wrong with being skeptical. But technically the sources here are military personnel, Alex Jones is only the conduit. Alex Jones isn't always right, but he's rarely wrong. Research what he reports and corroborate it for yourself. MSM either lies, parrots the "official" line (ie lies), or completely ignores what's really going on.

Military Sources Reveal Ground Force Invasion of Libya

KnivesOut says...

If it was from (almost) any source other than Alex Jones, I'd be like "Whoa that's heavy shit."

But since its Alex Jones, my natural bullshit resistance won't allow me to accept it as anything other than the rantings of a lunatic.

Maybe he's right, even insane squirrels find the nut once in a while. Then they fuck the nut.

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