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Bill Bailey - Major / Minor (We Are Most Amused and Amazed)
wtfcaniuseThe spiders are not insects but in a war they will side with the insects. Traitors! Traitors! Spider traitors! They'll betray us then they'll make us..
Human slaves! In an insect nation!
Seen him live a few times, always great shows. He did some really cool versions of local news and tv themesongs.
Why Meat is the Best Worst Thing in the World
newtboy:45..."what can we do about it?
A: Have fewer children.
2:20 "we could nourish an additional 3.5 billion more people if we just ate the stuff we feed to animals"
.....except humans can't eat grasses, the main food source for cattle. Most of what we feed animals is not considered edible by humans. Organic free range chickens eat insects and slugs, is the narrator prepared to live on that to prove his point? I doubt it.
6:13 "burgers are the best food".
This proves this was made by non meat eaters with no knowledge of meat at all. Anyone who would contend a 1/4 pounder s the pinnacle of meat dishes should have their tongue removed so they don't spread more nonsense, they obviously aren't using it to taste food. ;-)
The House Centipede is Fast, Furious, and Just So Extra
jmd says...Never had these around really... but I hear they are one of the best kind of best control insect to have. I guess you just have to deal with the constant molting shells left around. I think I could easily handle these over spiders... sorry spiders you guys were born scary.
TED: What is dust made of? - Michael Marder
BSR"The good and bad news about ants and plants. ... Their tunnels aerate the soil and allow water and nutrients to flow directly to the plant roots. They also distribute seeds by storing them in their tunnels. The bad news is that ants can protect honeydew-producing, sucking insects that do a great deal of damage."
What about ants?
Doctors Urge Americans: GO VEGAN!
newtboyNo, that's not even vegetarian, certainly not even close to vegan. Educated doctors know the difference, and any who are the least bit confused should be completely ignored because they have less health knowledge than you get from 3rd grade health class, or they are liars.
So you agree, they're liars, pretending their focus is your health when it's clearly only about animal health.
Really? Eating just under 1 lb (350g) of red meat a week is Vegan to you!? Lol! I guess I'm vegan then, a leather wearing, red and white meat eating, insect and gopher killing vegan. There's no limit for chicken or fish either! Wow, veganism has sure changed in the last few weeks....or perhaps you're just talking out of your ass.
Sounds to me like most doctors include large amounts of meat and dairy in that plant based diet you're so fond of pushing as vegan.
If just under 1lb red meat a week = plant based diet=vegan, all these benefits you mention should be realized today for almost everyone, because most meat eating people eat less red meat than that.
Edit: had my numbers wrong, that's less than 1 lb red meat a week, not 3. Still not vegan by far though.
He used the PCRM's own words to show them as liars, not industry hit pieces. Pretty hard to say they're honest about their goals and intentions when their own tax filings prove they aren't.
I understand how you've come to your conclusion, but let me clear it up:
The word 'vegan' in medicine is exchangeable with plant-based diet. If you look at the PCRM.org they recommend a whole-foods plant-based diet. They simply call it vegan, as that's what other organisations know it as, such as the British/American Dietetics Association. Clearly not recommending vegan icecream and hotdogs :-)
When it comes to prevention of cruelty to animals, the PCRM do it from a medical training/testing stand point. They're not saying don't eat animals because it's cruel, they're saying don't test drugs on animals when there are computer models and lab work that yield more accurate results (although animals costs less....). They're also against surgeons performing vivisection as part of their training. E.g. when my cousin did her training she had to put a perfectly healthy dog to sleep, chop of some of it's legs and re-attach them, as well as causing massive internal wounds to simulate gunshots.... it's messed up, but it's hard for young doctors to say anything because they've trained for a decade at that point, and they're not going to throw it away (and the next person will come along and do it anyway, since it's such a highly competitive industry). This where the PCRM come in, they lobby medical institutions to stop this kind of stuff.
If you're still thinking that they have some kind of vegan agenda / bias, the PCRM is an organisation of 12,000 doctors. If it was just one or two quacks preaching veganism, I'd be suspicious too, but that's clearly not the case here.
Everything they do is based on data. And they're also not the only medical organisation to do it. The Australian Medical Association is also urging hospitals to give patients plant-based diets because of how much faster they recover (and don't return). The President of the American College of Cardiology is 'vegan', and is know for his phrase "Meat kills, processed meat kills you quicker". The World Cancer Research Fund, recommends beans with every meal, no processed meat, and maximum of 350g of red meat a week. That's basically a plant-based diet.
There are now something like 400 studies being published every single year showing how bad animal products are for us. There's a nice graph here actually showing how much more evidence is coming out all the time: https://youtu.be/C5qRXPDNw1E?t=4190 (nevermind the tacky channel, the speakers at this conference are all legitimate medical professionals)
So yes, your doctors are right, eat your fruit and veg, but also whole grains, beans, nuts and seeds. Bean burrito is a perfect combination of these, followed by a banana and berry smoothie
You also have to consider the amount of financial loss various food and pharmacological industries would suffer if most people ate plant-based. So when you look for opinions about the PCRM people are very quick to make PCRM appear as a bunch of hippies in order to protect their earnings. America spends something like 50 billion dollars a year on statins, and 35 billion on stent surgeries, which would pretty much go away overnight if everyone ate plant-based diets. They're not going to let that money go without a fight, which is why there's a lot of opinions about PCRM around. Needless to say though, they don't have any good evidence to back their reasoning, which makes it quite easy to see which ones are likely opinions funded by certain industries.
Pollen Storm
mxxconPretty sure if we had more bees and other pollinating insects they'd be distributing this pollen rather than it gathering on trees like that.
radx
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newtboyIt's pretty horrific to think that this precipitous decline is being measured in reserves in a country with some of the stricter regulations on toxins.
Since you've noticed such a decline in insects where you are, have you noticed a corresponding increase in pill bugs (really crustaceans)? I have here in N Cali
The data of the study came out of Germany, where the effects of a change in temperature are much more moderate than in many other areas. Basically, this decline is attributed mostly due to farming, the saturation of everything with pesticides, and, generally speaking, the destruction of the ecosphere. Even worse, this is in a country with comparably extensive regulation on all these matters, unlike, say, India.
As you say, this really is no bueno.
Driving past fields of rapeseed in the late '90s meant a windshield full of bugs. We used to head into the fields wearing yellow shirts just to see who can get the densest armor of bugs. Now, I can walk past the very same fields outside the town I grew up in with less than 5 bugs on a yellow shirt.
Or how about another anecdote: when I grew up, barbecue in my (grand-)parents yard meant paying attention to all the wasps, so that you don't swallow one by accident. I haven't seen a single one over several barbecues this year. Bees and bumblebees are still around, though less plentiful, but wasps are a complete no-show. Haven't seen a hornet in two years.
radx
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newtboySo much for keeping temperature rise below 2 degrees above preindustrial averages (or even the Paris 1.5 degree goal) being "safe". We're at 1.2 degrees and rising last year, and it seems like Ragnarok is upon us.
This is pretty good evidence that the anthropogenic extinction event is well under way, not something to fear might happen in a dystopian future. Both the natural food web and agriculture are dependent on insects. A 3/4 reduction is probably at or beyond the tipping point.
This business is going to get out of control, and we'll be lucky to live through it.
Fuck. We all better call up Jim Bakker for some apocalypse food buckets quick.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/oct/18/warning-of-ecological-armageddon-after-dramatic-plunge-in-insect-numbers
Well... fuck.
eric3579
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radxhttps://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/oct/18/warning-of-ecological-armageddon-after-dramatic-plunge-in-insect-numbers
Well... fuck.
Baby Dragonfly Has Alien Mouth
PlayhousePals*quality my favorite insect!
Honest Ads - Ummmm .... Milk!
MordhausI will numm it up heartily. Maybe even with some insect vomit or spread over my wafers of bacteria infested wheat product.
Toxicity Comparison (This little will KILL you)
Mordhaus@Jinx @eric3579
According to the internet, which is never wrong, the animal/insect toxin that kills the most humans per year is the venom of the saw-scaled viper.
The microbial toxin that kills the most people per year, and that would appear to dwarf the death rate of any animal or insect, is Staphylococcus aureus toxin. The effects of it's multiple exotoxins create multiple conditions ranging from pimples all the way up to sepsis and toxic shock syndrome.
As an example, deaths related to Staphylococcus aureus are estimated to clock in at 50K per year in the USA alone.
Hmm. I'm betting on toxin produced by bacteria. Something like Cholera.
or. you know, maybe you could say that humans create a pretty deadly cocktail of toxins
Will AI make us immortal? Or will it wipe us out?
ChaosEngine*quality
I'm currently reading "Superintelligence" by Nick Bostrom and it's pretty *fear inducing.
If we ever do hit the singularity... it doesn't really matter what we do.
First up, if it's an AGI is to be any use, it needs to be at least as smart as us. Which means, by definition, it will be capable of writing its own AGI.
There are any number of nightmare scenarios where even a seemly benevolent goal might be disastrous for humanity.
"Multivac, fix the environment!"
"Ok, what's the major issue with the environment?"
/wipes out humanity
"Multivac, solve the Riemann hypothesis!"
"Ok, but I'll need a lot of processing power"
/converts entire planet to a giant cpu
Even if, by some miracle, we end up developing a benevolent AI that understands our needs and is aligned with them, (e.g. the Culture Minds), we are no longer in control.
We might be along for the ride, but we're certainly not driving.
The other thing that's interesting is a question of scale. We tend to think of intelligence in human terms, like this.
infants..... children.....mentally impaired..Sarah Palin.....normal people.....Neil deGrasse Tyson.....Feynman, Einstein, Newton, etc.
But that ignores all the lower intelligences:
bacteria...Trump......insects.....sheep.....dogs...chimps, dolphins, etc............................... dumb human..smart human.
But from a superintelligence's point of view, the scale looks more like this
bacteria.. humanity ... Tesla ................................................... ..................................................................................................
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............................................................................................. AI
Must Love Bugs
antI was going to major and work in entomology when I was younger since I love living bugs like ants. I even hung out with a few local entomologists like Robert H. Crandoll (RIP since he passed away in 2006). He had a cool insect collection (dead and alive) in his house.
However, I am still fascinated with nature today as an old fart.
However, computer science took over since I love computers especially their digital bugs. I don't like the chemical odor/smell, traveling, low pay, etc.
eric3579
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radxhttps://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/05/where-have-all-insects-gone