My dad has this attachment to 50s rock and roll and he rightly believes everything in pop music was invented in the 50s and possibly the 60s.

I remember most of these songs (the british ones) coming out and me being fascinated by what could be done differently to what was then the mainstream. However pop quickly devolved through the 80s and I found myself meandering back in time, from late to early Talking Heads, from late to early Genesis and Floyd and Yes and Jethro Tull and Mike Oldfield and Fleetwood Mac, discovering the Beatles and the Beach Boys were actually good at some point, finding out Frank Zappa was a thing and discovering that yes, the guy who made late 20th century pop music up in his garage, with his searches for new sounds and writing his own music and lyrics was indeed one Buddy Holly in the 50s.

Anyway I found myself listening to a rather childish track by Basement Jaxx years later and could not quite put my finger on what made that one track work for me. All these bands that only have one really good track... Anyway what was going on was a Gary Numan sample.

So I went back and listened to some of this old stuff and I was really surpised that some of it still works.

But back in 1980 if you heard Numan, early Midge Ure Ultravox minus the ubiquitous title track of the album, Visage, or a couple of years later the Eurythmics you would hear a sound that was strikingly new and different.

Thinking back Peter Gabriels 3rd solo album (although itself very electronic) took me out of the electronic pop bandcamp and more into alternative rock. That and lucking into a friend who had an older brother who had all the old Genesis records also as sheet music including lyrics. That or David Byrne.

The main point is the music you like is the music you liked when you were 13.

NO! NO! NOT BUDDY HOLLY!!

Oh, godDAMNIT! I was all overjoyed that Lurgee posted some Talk Talk, then I find out Mark Hollis died.

Well, shit.

Goodbye Mark Hollis.

Goodbye Mark Hollis.

Minnesota here, and seeing homeless people peeing into a snowdrift isn't much better. Oh, and you're freezing your holly jolly balls off too.

But... He wasn't considered a great national figure. He was considered to be a "rich bc he fucked people over constantly" con man who seemed to have less money than he claimed to have.

Do you wish you had attended Trump University? If you said you "graduated" (in quotes because students were not graded" from Trump University, would people take you seriously if you put that on a resume? Would you let someone who graduated from Trump University handle your own finances, knowing they had an education from said school alone?

I don't think so. And that's the crux of all of this. That fake University is the model on which his entire business is built. Say you're giving them the best the biggest and give them something that looks flashy; you'll net a bunch of fools without any good sense of what they're getting into, but pull back the curtain and is the cheapest X Y Z they could sell you at that price.

Similarly, his politics are all one guffaw after another.

Nuclear disarmament from North Korea! Holly shit! Awesome! Ftw! Oh... Wait... You don't have a detailed agreement... What do you mean the word "Denuclearization" doesn't mean the same thing in Korean as in English? Oh, it means they will give up all their nukes because they won't need them anymore because we will get rid of all of ours as well? It's is a made up term from the 90's ??? https://www.npr.org/2018/04/22/604789492/how-does-kim-jong-un-define-denuclearization

Wait, they still have all their nukes and are continuing to produce more? But we had a coin made and everything! And we signed that thing! How could they still be making nukes? We signed a half assed contact! He agreed to my terms that he should agree to keep his nukes until he feels like getting rid of them!

It's just Trump University in nuclear disarmament form. It's a whole bunch of pomp and circumstance. Celebration for celebrations/political sake without any substance. That's why I'm not surprised that they are still producing nuclear weapons and the dumbasses who voted for this assclown are.

My absolute favorite Gino/Holly moment.
https://videosift.com/video/Best-comeback-ever-to-receipt-suggestion

Was that actually Buddy Holly at 2:12 or someone else.

@Fantomas
Don't forget Meatloaf! And Gary Busey could reprise his Buddy Holly. Celebrity Apprentice winners [because Trump LIKES winners] Trace Adkins and John Rich might consider it for old times sake.

I did see a news item that they were having difficulty finding performers [even LYING ... shocker ... about who they've lined up]: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/23/arts/music/no-elton-john-will-not-perform-at-the-trump-inauguration.html?_r=0

For the curious, the flash at 1:52 says:
Some of you might be curious what attending bandcamp is like. Well let me tell you.

You're 12. You're playing in the cornet section. You've had a crush on Holly Willis for weeks now. But you notice her sneaking off with Chris Jones - the first violinist - one day and later at rehearsal they're holding hands.

So you start intentionally playing the wrong notes but everyone just thinks you're mentally ill and the conductor verbally destroys you in front of the entire orchestra.

I hope you're doing great, Chris Jones. I bet you work in IT now and you're rish, Chris Jones.

Fuck you, Chris Jones.

if you follow the chat at the Hollies sift above, you'll see dft and japr realizing the similarity for the first time, and then realizing why.

and they're both musicians!

*related=http://videosift.com/video/The-Hollies-The-Air-That-I-Breathe
*related=http://videosift.com/video/Creep-Original-Video

Creep VS The Air That I Breathe - Radiohead/Hollies cover has been added as a related post - related requested by Zawash on that post.