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200 students admit cheating after professor's online rant

chtierna says...

@Porksandwich

Definitely. Whatever happend to apprenticeship? Me, as a programmer, I would have loved the chance to get involved in a real company as a part of my education and have some guidance from someone working inside the industry. Give the company a bit of money for the effort, in exchange the students get real-world experience and can build a net of contacts and the companies can pick out talents. Mix the work with studies in theory, maybe the companies would even pick up new processes and advancements from the academic world through the students.

>> ^Porksandwich:

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/chtierna" title="member since September 25th, 2008" class="profilelink">chtierna
I understand the stresses of it, but a lot of it is brought about by the attitude that you need 99% graduation and 99% job placement. and 99% this and that.
And I know university classes are about learning to think instead of learning subject matter or how to. But if this is the case then cheating is not helping. And allowing cheating is not helping. But their goals are now primarily "making money" instead of education. So that said, I wish they would venture a little and do the 4 year program but allow students who complete the 4 year do 6-12 months of "trade school" type projects where they learn to put their education into practical applications. Even allow businesses to give the school some hardware/money/whatever to let the students finish these projects in this period of time. And allow for people to apply themselves directly to work projects while being able to have access to the school faculty, that way they can find deficiencies in their teaching and fix them plus allow students to find their weaknesses and address them through a little research of their own and application.
It always frustrates me to see how much people embellish on their resumes and their job descriptions when you see what they actually do. But this comes from there being no baseline for comparison, some people get paid less and do much more difficult work but it's presented less........."colorfully" on their resume than the higher paid stuff.

I know they have professors help military bases with teaching programs and such and even consult with businesses. I don't see a problem with businesses working more closely with universities to get some cheap/free work out of it, find some potential hires and make both the school and the business more attractive to current and potential employees.
At least then it could potentially lead to another revenue source for the university that doesn't harm the students by allowing cheaters to ruin the program. Might even convince more undergrads to go into graduate programs if they do the work and find they really like portions of it and want to specialize.

200 students admit cheating after professor's online rant

Porksandwich says...

@chtierna

I understand the stresses of it, but a lot of it is brought about by the attitude that you need 99% graduation and 99% job placement. and 99% this and that.

And I know university classes are about learning to think instead of learning subject matter or how to. But if this is the case then cheating is not helping. And allowing cheating is not helping. But their goals are now primarily "making money" instead of education. So that said, I wish they would venture a little and do the 4 year program but allow students who complete the 4 year do 6-12 months of "trade school" type projects where they learn to put their education into practical applications. Even allow businesses to give the school some hardware/money/whatever to let the students finish these projects in this period of time. And allow for people to apply themselves directly to work projects while being able to have access to the school faculty, that way they can find deficiencies in their teaching and fix them plus allow students to find their weaknesses and address them through a little research of their own and application.

It always frustrates me to see how much people embellish on their resumes and their job descriptions when you see what they actually do. But this comes from there being no baseline for comparison, some people get paid less and do much more difficult work but it's presented less........."colorfully" on their resume than the higher paid stuff.


I know they have professors help military bases with teaching programs and such and even consult with businesses. I don't see a problem with businesses working more closely with universities to get some cheap/free work out of it, find some potential hires and make both the school and the business more attractive to current and potential employees.

At least then it could potentially lead to another revenue source for the university that doesn't harm the students by allowing cheaters to ruin the program. Might even convince more undergrads to go into graduate programs if they do the work and find they really like portions of it and want to specialize.

Minecart Interstate V3.0 [MineCraft]

Payback says...

>> ^Tymbrwulf:
When I watch videos such as these, I imagine what the author could have accomplished if he would have spent his time doing something dare I say, "productive".


Other than cutting through in a straight line, what was so hard about that? The landscape looks procedurally constructed, and after a bit, the cart track lost a lot of embellishments.

The importance of running technique

NordlichReiter says...

This is *long.

It sounds like they have some good ideas, but this video was not the best way to do it. This video contains embellishments.

This could have been better if they had done everything in mathematical form devoid of the video embellishments.


The last part of the video seems like bullshit. This is a commercial, and not science.

Racist KFC Commercial Followup: The TYT Backlash

GenjiKilpatrick says...

Westy - You're saying that's okay to perpetuate and export stereotypes because that's "good marketing"? O_o?!
How is spreading stereotypes i.e. embellished prejudice a good thing?

GeeSussFreak - Who made you the authority on "who is supposed to be" or "rightly" offended?
I'm bi-racial so (while i'm not up in arms) the ad instantly reminds me of all the annoying moronic fried chicken and watermelon jokes i had to suffer thru and smile off as a child.

Please don't assume racist undertones are "harmless" simply because you personally aren't bothered. -_- ..


Like Asmo says, any american can indentify the awkwardness of one white guy giving fried chicken to wild rowdy black people to shut them up.

KFC knows this and that's why they did everything they could to stop americans from seeing it.. except for not producing or releasing it. (Like KFC doesn't know about the internet)

KFC knowingly chose to depict something that implies racial prejudice and all the things that go with it.

If it had been a group of white fans surrounded by the group of black fans and both laughed and smiled, Westy's claims of interracial chicken enthusiasm would hold water. ...But that's not the case.

KFC could have just as easily focused on the color of the jerseys and team rivalry to imply the awkwardness.

"OH no, we're all yellow shirts in this huge group of red shirts. Let's both enjoy some food! Yay!"

The ad is in poor taste. Plain and simple.

Christian Mafia: "Morality Is For The Little People"

chilaxe says...

The Family does seem to be at least a secretive, powerful, religious fundamentalist organization, but nobody has any idea how accurate Sharlet's claims are. Authors routinely embellish things or make stuff up completely, and they have strong incentive to do so.

It seems to strain credulity that such a powerful organization that "fetishes secrecy" wouldn't do a background check on Sharlet before letting him view their innermost meetings.

A background check would have revealed that Sharlet is clearly a liberal who's against everything the Family stands for. Sharlet's uncle, who shares the same name, Jeff Sharlet, was a prominent Vietnamn peace activist, and Sharlet himself co-founded a clearly liberal religion magazine called "Killing the Buddha"(Wiki).

All I object to is media figures who don't respect how difficult it is to actually know something free of bias and inaccuracy. http://www.videosift.com/video/Richard-Feynman-on-Social-Sciences

Fox 8 Cleveland Black Bear Special Effects Extravaganza

Payback says...

This reporter is awesome. He took what could have been either the most boring story of the day --or worse, Fox News'd it into a massacre averted-- and made a COMPLETELY ACCURATE, if embellished, segment that is being seen around the world.

Kittens' first experience of the Great Outdoors

The Daily Show: Interview with author of 'Misquoting Jesus'

jwray says...

It's a mix of embellished history, fables, myths, and anachronistic laws.


If God existed and wanted to send a message to everyone he'd speak to everyone at once instead of privately revealing stuff to one person per century.

Inaccurate transliterations are annoying (Blog Entry by jwray)

oxdottir says...

Well, that makes sense, that pinyin means phonetic. That means Hanyu pinyin just means "phonetically represented Chinese" which is all it is. I remember the uproar when China went to using Hanyu Pinyin in all official communication and lots of Americans were pissed. Peking was better than Beijing, Sian was better than Xi'an, and so on. But it's consistent. And when someone all of a sudden makes me read Wade-Giles instead of Pinyin, it's so hard. I mean, Chinese is hard for me in general, but at least if it is written in full Pinyin with the tone symbols, I can say it--I have no chance if it isn't consistent.

My understanding is that Chinese character keyboards start with the roots of the characters and then add embellishments. I don't know for sure, but I have watched people type in Chinese characters as quickly as I can type in alphabetic things.

Atheism & Christmas (Religion Talk Post)

NordlichReiter says...

To me, Christmas is as mundane as Halloween, and Thanksgiving. But that doesn't mean I do not enjoy these holidays, I enjoy them more so because they are mundane.

A good person told me a story: at morticians college they told him the only reason we do this sort of thing, is because it makes the living feel better, because the dead could care less, if they could care at all. (I added some embellishment.)

What I mean is enjoy the good times while they come, live every good time while it lasts. Fuck the rest.

Jack Chick, animated: "Somebody Goofed," by Syd & Rodney

Trancecoach says...

^While all that you say may be true (albeit a bit embellished) about this (granted) lunatic, this 8 minute film debuted at the DFILM Digital Film Festival in San Francisco on November 7, 1997 to which it received some wild responses. DFILM founder Bart Cheever tells Boing Boing TV reported, "People really loved it or really, really hated it. Religious people called it blasphemous and threatened to organize boycotts of our shows. Anti-religious people called it religious propaganda and wrote angry letters to theater owners where we screened the festival."

Anything that provokes THAT level of reaction deserves some attention! *requeue

the worlds first city, advanced 9000 year old society

dannym3141 says...

>> ^Xax:

despite the fact that god created the world only 6000 years ago

Not everyone who believes in God believes that the world is only 6000 years old, or that God created the world in 168 hours, or that evolution is blasphemy.
Just doing my part to cure ignorance on both sides of the fence.


So you're making your own religion up..?

Since when was religion a pick and choose kind of thing? If you change your doctrine, you've just created a tearaway cult of the religion you're changing, aren't you?

I'm not 100% certain, but i'm fairly sure you can't just say "Well, i believe most of what i'm told, but i'm quite sure that it's ok for me to have gay sex with this guy, that was probably just over embellishment!" and decide that you're still a christian only without the gay-sex part.

I imagine this is the sort of thing that comes down to opinion. Some would say you adhere to/believe all or you adhere to/believe none, and some would say "It's for us to translate."

Sarah Palin: Bridge of Lies

NetRunner says...

I wasn't a fan of the laugh at the end, usually TPM doesn't do those kinds of things.

The clips at the beginning and end are actually taken from a new McCain ad (the first positive one from them I've seen since June).

Other than that, it seemed a pretty straight up debunking of taglines from the ad it's a response to.

Put another way, they're lying about Palin's past as an opponent to the bridge to nowhere, and as an opponent of earmarks. Not spinning, not embellishing, not exaggerating, just bald-faced lying.

People should feel insulted and angry, but not by the video.

Family Guy Deleted Scene: '911 Call'



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