Kinda like a slowly boiled live frog.

From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog

The boiling frog is a fable describing a frog being slowly boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is put suddenly into boiling water, it will jump out, but if the frog is put in tepid water which is then brought to a boil slowly, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death. The story is often used as a metaphor for the inability or unwillingness of people to react to or be aware of sinister threats that arise gradually rather than suddenly.

Pfft... Stupid frogs.

Your talking about it historically though. Historical abuse and mistreatment of Aboriginal people in Canada has been acceptable to discuss for at least a generation or two now, up to formal apologies and enormous numbers of court cases and cash settlements around the myriad past injustices.

The trouble is, even while addressing all the historical problems, there still exist new ones right now.

Typical conditions on Aboriginal reserves in Canada are unacceptably awful. You can have a thriving municipality right neighbouring an aboriginal reserve that is a mess of dilapidated homes, boiled water and grossly increased rates of unemployment, substance abuse and suicide. Small wonder then that increased crime rates also come along with all that.

Even that you can talk about, though the increased crime rate will get you in trouble for flirting with being racist against aboriginals.

What you can't talk about is many of the causes of the disparity.

Aboriginal reserves operate under a different legal framework than the neighbouring municipality. They operate under a different framework of governance. They operate under a different system of taxation. Organisation of all related government services like education, healthcare, policing and civil works like roads, water and sanitation are ALL different if you're on a reserve.

Talking about all that you need to be very careful how you say it, because if your not careful my above observations are a statement that coloniser systems are superior to aboriginal ones.

Private property rights are IMO an even hotter topic. The dilapidated housing on a reserve 10 minutes away from the municipality with everything in order is a direct result of who is responsible for maintaining them. In the municipality if a roof is missing shingles, the owner replaces them. If a window is broken, the owner replaces it. On the reserve though, the community is the owner. Unsurprisingly, that abstraction means maintenance on the homes is worse. If the mayor was responsible for using tax dollars to maintain all the homes in the neighbouring municipality it'd be a mess too. This leads to the poor aboriginal family stuck in a destroyed and overcrowded home and a chief saying sorry, the Canadian colonisers didn't give us enough money to fix your place, go yell at them. This just stirs up the Winnipeg citizens I mentioned earlier to respond with wonderment at why you don't fix your own home up yourself instead of protesting hopelessly for the government to hand out the money to do it for you.

The differential treatment still in place now, today is a cancer and needs to be fixed but calling it out like that would get me in trouble.

I'm in complete agreement, although there are some edge-case limits. I lost an uncle (well before I was born) to one of them.

Kansas winters are cold and dry. My grandmother liked to deal with both problems by putting a pot to boil on the stove. In the 50's, my father's 3-4 year old brother managed to get enough of a grip and yank on the handle of the pot to pull it over the edge and didn't survive the burns from the scalding water.

Burned fingertips? Lesson learned, will heal. Boiling water or oil? Better keep it out of reach.

Interesting to see the thermal imagery - although I am well familiar with the outcome. It would have been more interesting if they had done a similar experiment mixing water into sulfuric acid: this is something that we teach students never to do because the heat of solvation is so high that it can boil water as it mixes with the acid.

Sit me down there with a mallet and a pot of boiling water and I'll take care of your crab problem.

Karate chop the whole box. Open. Dump into boiling water. No mess.

I think she meant take your clothes off before pouring boiling water on them.

It's 190 degrees in Farenheit. In Celsius that's only 88 degrees. It's well below boiling and I dare say most of us do handle boiling water regularly.

I agree her story is an important cautionary tale and reminder just how dangerous boiling water can be. I do NOT believe it means that selling boiling or near boiling water to customers should be considered unethical and reckless. Boiling water is a common enough substance, and well enough understood that hands down the responsibility for handling it properly should fall with the user.

I guess I still stand with the idea that suing somebody for selling you boiling water because you later spill it on yourself is as stupid an idea to me now as ever.

Nail on the head with frog in boiling water analogy, for many things in this country.

Ribbet...

>> ^fritzo9602:

Um, I can peel the potatoes in less time than it takes to boil water.

Then eat them raw? You're hardcore, dude.

Um, I can peel the potatoes in less time than it takes to boil water.

>> ^mizila:

Safety Note
A little more basic, but don't boil water with a microwave in a smooth glass container without something (a stick in this video) to disrupt the surface. It could superheat the water.
Microwave + Smooth Glass + Undisturbed Water = Steam Bomb


While super heating water in a microwave is possible, you need a very smooth container, water free of impurities and it must be perfectly still while heating as the slightest disturbance can cause flash boiling. Mass produced glass and plastic measuring cups and other containers will always have small defects and if you have a turn table in your microwave and you're using tap water, you'll be fine as the imperfections in the container combined with impurities in tap water and the motion of the turn table will be enough to prevent super heating.

Also, what the guy says around 1:35 isn't true. A microwave doesn't heat the whole mass of the food because the microwaves can't penetrate the entire mass of the food. If what he said were true, you could stick a whole turkey in it and cook it in minutes, but in reality you'll end up with a hot outside and a cold inside.

**Safety Note**

A little more basic, but don't boil water with a microwave in a smooth glass container without something (a stick in this video) to disrupt the surface. It could superheat the water.

Microwave + Smooth Glass + Undisturbed Water = Steam Bomb

>> ^shang:

As Gordon Ramsay say on "The F Word" show - "I just toss them in boiling water alive... who the hell cares "


Someone better than Gordon Ramsey.

You kill your food before you cook it, you do not pussy out on the handling.

As Gordon Ramsay say on "The F Word" show - "I just toss them in boiling water alive... who the hell cares "