Sticks the landing.

How does this kind of innocent fun relate to appearing in blackface or wearing an indian costume when not self an indian? Or native american? Huh? I get lost sometimes.

That's not true. The "Ok" symbol, number codes, etc have been used for years because they could be used in public without exposing themselves as racists except to other racists who know the code.
I agree, once these symbols and codes are recognized, trolls latch onto them as easy triggers to pull.
I can discern intent....to be publicly racist. The meaning is not hidden.
Trolls being publicly racist not for racism's sake but for outrage's sake are still being racists in their effort, as are those who actually believe in/support the racism. Just like a white guy who wears blackface to get a rise out of people MIGHT not be otherwise racist, just a super douchebag willing to do racist things and spread racism for their jollies. Even if they aren't hard core racists, I have no problem labeling them racists, non racists don't commit racist acts for laughs.

No, you're thinking of the, also racist, white lives matter movement spawned by actual racists in an effort to delegitimize and dilute the BLM movement, and picked up by the right as a counter movement to it.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/white-lives-matter


It's surprising no one tried "Your Life Matters". That's an all inclusive slogan that isn't a whit racist.

Calling Red face, and not even that red.
Red turns black when converted to B/W, and his face is brighter than 50% Grey.
Blackface implies racism today, and this had no racism connotations to it at all.

I think they mean the Devil's makeup. Hard to call that blackface though....it might even be red face for all we know.

Didn't see any Blackface in this whats-so-ever!

This has been bugging me since I first watched it. In fact, I've seen the topis pop up several times since seeing it the first time.

I went to the BBC website, and they show the Digital Blackface video, with absolutely no place for comments or viewer interaction. We are just expected at accept it.

It's my honest opinion that this Digital Blackface segment does nothing but insight more bigotry. It takes something that was never racist and and makes it racist. How are we ever going to eliminate the separation gap, if there's always someone there to push us further apart.

H3H3 is so On Point here. *promote


I have so much to say here, but most is covered in the video - watch it.

Your video, BBC Introduces "Digital Blackface", has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.

Oh yay, it's Gavin McInnes, the white nationalist dude that got booted from the company he founded for being even worse than the rest of Vice...

" McInnes has referred to Asian-Americans as "slopes" and "riceballs," suggested Muslims are "stupider" and "more violent" due to inbreeding, defended blackface because some minstrel shows were "just mimicking black people" and "fun," backed the racist comments of Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson, and argued that to yell the n-word at someone is "not racist" but "just very rude."

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/06/05/meet-the-hipster-racist-fox-news-guest-attackin/199617

racist videos galore

http://videosift.com/video/The-Blackface-Democrat
http://videosift.com/video/Black-mob-violence-The-First-Lady-explains-it-all
http://videosift.com/video/Muslim-Rape-Gangs-roaming-Europe-seeking-white-rape-victims
http://videosift.com/video/Sweden-Being-Raped-To-Death-By-Muslim-Migrants

That's just the last two months. Get him out of here!

These are your own rules to not post stuff like this!

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"Please do not post videos that make fun of other races.

Because of the high volume of world-wide traffic on VideoSift, it is very easy to unintentionally offend a good number of people with material like this. If you think a video is questionable, it is probably not going to pass our standards, and you are probably better off not submitting it."

You don't need to link any angry man-hating feminist videos, and I don't need to link any angry woman-hating videos by people calling themselves humanists while threatening Anita Sarkeesian's life. We both know that they exist, and should ideally agree that this doesn't mean most self-labelled feminists hate men and most self-labelled humanists don't hate women. In fact, the vast majority of feminists and humanists don't even make angry videos on the internet.

Then you go into statistics on rape by men against women outside of prison and rape by men against in prison. This is a fucking horrible cultural phenomenon, and I discussed that. Above. You saw it? Yeah you did. But you wanted to make pretend rape threats instead, which fine, that's your deal, I guess. Nevertheless I can quote myself, again:

"if we concede that there's a pervasive and destructive culture of rape of women by men outside of prison, I will also concede that there's a pervasive and destructive culture of rape of men by men in prison. In fact, I'll go ahead and concede that anyway. Which is fucking awful, but doesn't mean that feminists are wrong for railing against the situation outside of prison."

Furthermore - I gave you some quotes specifically showing you good sources of arguments. Not examplesof things men should tolerate or be fine about it. Quite the opposite, in fact. Don't pretend that I said that men should be fine with rape, because I never did. I said that just as white people have the privilege to shrug off inflammatory comments by BLM activists while still respecting the underlying movement, men have the privilege to be able to shrug off some inflammatory comments by feminist activists while still respecting the underlying movement. I am a little surprised that you responded with "I should have some people rape the fuck out of you" but okay, that's how you roll. If you don't want to go back on that comment - we'll just let it stand on its own, I guess.

As for Nicholas Cristakis in the video you link to, there's a shitload to discuss there, but it's much more nuanced and weird than feminism vs whatever.

- There's the weirdness of the role of a 'Master' and what it has come to mean at Yale. While I think the students are being unbearably unbearable, it would be a little different if they did it to a teacher rather than a master, who has a sort of weird guidance counsellor / therapist role. I don't know why that role needs to exist, or what it means in practice normally.
- There's the absolute insufferable pampered entitled gall and rudeness of those students which makes my goddamn blood boil.
- There's the question of racism and cultural appropriation at halloween (which started the whole thing) which to me is both a silly and difficult debate; I'm absolutely disguested by blackface, but I don't really mind if some four-year old white or black or hispanic girl wants to dress up as Mulan.
- There's the issue of job security in the academic world and what kind of protection Christakis has from fallout over a perfectly reasonable letter his wife wrote...

Those are all interesting, I agree, but I don't see what the video has to do with this one.

See, another example of some "i-can't-possibly-racial-insensitive-whatsoever-because-THIS-guy-agrees-with-completely-sheltered-rose-tinted-worldview" - *deep breath* - Bullshit!

[phew, these polite euphemisms for "racist" are getting out of hand now]

Unfortunately, the term "culture appropriation" is a misnomer.

The term coined should be Cultural MISappropriation and refers to shit like Blackface.

Something this was trendy, open mockery. Also, fairly lucrative.

This White Party video is a highly significant point of discussion and is important satire for all white folks to think about & discuss because..

THIS IS EXACTLY HOW MOST COLORED PEOPLE FEEL.
[I would know, cause this is exactly how i feel]

So yeah..

Tactless, suggestively snarky comments, with a Token to parrot and espouse believes that confirm your bias.. -_-

Is simply "mild" racism in action.
It's Denialism. It's Victim-blaming.

"Stop complaining. We're all equal see. Can't we all just learn spanish & twerk our butts, as one."

And let Americans sweep all that other extremely racist shit under the rug for another 150 years?!

Fuck no.

Negrotown is a minstrel show... I think Key even had blackface on.
A little too on-the-nose for satire...
I'm not offended on behalf of black people or anything like that, I just didn't find it clever.

Technically, none of this changes Trance's point, whether the video was comedy or not. One might even say the video author himself is the one guilty of prejudice. Extreme example warning: what if he did this stunt wearing blackface during the civil rights movement? "It's just a joke" is rarely a good excuse.

first blackface I've seen that was not the least bit racist.

Context:
After looking up the title on Youtube ("Dans la peau d'un Noir"), it turned out to be a documentary from 2007 where two French families, one black one white, "switched" their skin colors to experiment with discrimination (or its sudden absence, as the case may be). Its Wikipedia page mention John Howard Griffin's "Black Like Me" as an inspiration.

Additional note which I feel obliged to mention for American viewers: there were no minstrel shows, and so there is no concept of "blackface", in Europe. Of course disguising yourself into some sort of racial stereotype would bring the same type of reaction as anywhere else (or so I hope), but just changing your skin tone would not be considered offensive in itself.