It just seems to me that you blame all cops for the actions of a few cops, but all cops are racist because they believe the actions of a few blacks smear the entire black race.

That shows your hypocrisy. But I'm not going to come on here and say 'Genji, you are a HYPOCRITE!' every time I get a chance because it doesn't advance any argument.

Perhaps you can rise above the simple-minded logic of someone like newtboy and realize that some cops can do the wrong thing w/o it casting aspersions on the entire cop culture.

You don't like it when you think that all cops blame all black people for black criminal behavior, do you?

It sure is convenient to believe that all your problems are due to white people, or cops, or whatever.

@JustSaying

I'm gonna be nice cause I don't have any experience with you or your opinions yet. And, to an extent, I agree..

Hopefully you can contribute something meaningful to videosift, considering all the great voices who've disappeared from this place.

It's just extremely frustrating that these two goofballs are haven't left yet.

And in fact, your premise is a topic that I definitely have been meaning to discuss.

There's a Prager "University" video that addresses that exact premise of sugarcoated vs blatant belligerent racist.

The video itself is flagrantly patronizing.

That being said we have all three types of racist on videosift currently:

Bobknight is your classic Neo-Con Racist.
- He hates blacks, gays, jews & liberals and makes no qualms about expressing how subhuman those groups are.

Trancecoach is your more politically-correct racist.
- Seems pretty open-minded and accepting, until you reach the middle or end of his comment.
Then it's all like "isn't it sad that all black people have no fathers and live in the ghetto."

Lantern is a special case.
- He'll be toned-down yet flagrant at times. Openly belligerent at others.
But it's always under the guise of "I can't be racist cause I don't FEEL like i'm racist"

He even used the classic "Well I CAN'T be racist cause my DAUGHTER married a BLACK/BIRACIAL guy! See, not racist"

Then will immediately say some heinously racist shit like he has in this thread. i.e.

"Of course I didn't bother reading the article for context or facts.
I'm a cop, I know how the 'Criminal Element' thinks.
Clearly those kids were dangerous.
If we had just heard the audio, we would have seen how those punks are no better than those looting rioting savages in Baltimore"

So no, JustSaiyan.. I would NOT prefer to have some idiot saying idiot things whenever I come back to check out the site.

At least Bill O'Reilly is smart enough to have a somewhat substantive discussion.

Lantern just says racist shit, then cowers behind the "i'm a good person because my job & family FORCE me into being around lesbians & colored people.. and I put up with that pretty well. so.. yeah.."

But yeah, I just hate people like Lantern cause he's too chicken shit to just say he thinks black people are inferior whenever I press him on it.

At least Bobknight will straight tell you gays are immoral sinful perverts or whatever. The old-fashion, honest, terrifying-murder-clown bigot he is.

Then again, Bobknight can't admit he's racist either.
So.. maybe that's just a core Conservative talking point now.

Guys, this ain't so hard...
You're a racist when you assign more or less value as a human being to people of a certain race (ethnical group) than you assign to yourself because of their ethnicity. There's a difference between saying "Stalin is less worth than M.L. King" (personal opinion) and "white people are worth less than blacks". The latter would be racism.
Prejudice is when you have opinions about people before knowing the facts about them.
Walking up to Mike Tyson and saying "You must have a giant cock because all black men are giants" is a prejudice that may be racist but it assigns positive values. Sure, it's offensive, like telling asian people they must be great at math, but somewhat forgivable. You're an ignorant cunt, yeah, but at least you said something flattering. You racist.
Walking up to Mike and telling him "All black men are criminals" is not only prejudice but also racist. Why? Because calling somebody a criminal is a negative judgement. A generalized negative prejudice towards an ethnic group is a racist way of thinking. Mike was convicted for raping his girlfriend. He is a criminal. Not all black men are Tyson. And if they were, I'd prefer the science variant. You're plain wrong.
Now saying "I bet all black people like listening to R'nB music" is just prejudice. There's no judgement here. Right? Unless you consider "he listens to R'n'B" an insult. How about "all polish people love ice cream"? Did you just imply polish people are all fat?
The difference between prejudice and racist prejudice lies entirely in subtext and context. It's not what you say, it's what you mean.
Prejudice is a tightrope made of blurry lines spanning over a pit of outrage. That's why politicians should not walk that way.
Being aware of differences between race, ethnic groups and talking about is simply being hones and probably not giving a shit about political correctness. We ARE different. That's the interesting part.
What we sadly forget is this: to focus on what we have in common. But somebody already said that way more eloquent than I ever could:
"Hath not a Jew eyes? Hath not a Jew hands, organs,
dimensions, senses, affections, passions; fed with
the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject
to the same diseases, healed by the same means,
warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer
as a Christian is? If you prick us, do we not bleed?
If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us,
do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that.

You tell me how this is racist...

Actual racist: "Black people can't be leaders."
Obama overhears it and responds: "Yeah, f'ing Obama!"

I'm pretty sure that despite Obama "playing around with" language that could be construed as racist, what he said would not be considered racist by pretty much anyone. It would be pretty damn funny actually because clearly Obama wouldn't sincerely say that about himself, nor black people, and it also pokes fun at that racist statement by pointing out there's a black person who is President of the United States, so clearly black people can be leaders.

Change Obama to David Duke, and yeah, it's now probably racist, and it's not funny at all.

Or this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gHz-l40FNQ

Louis CK is saying that in response to Patrice O'Neal's factual account for the origin of a racial slur against Jewish people. Louis CK was very good friends with the late O'Neal, and he's not racist. O'Neal knew that. If you listen to the video, as soon as Louis CK starts his bit before anything that's faux-racist comes out, everyone is immediately laughing, including O'Neal, because they know he's about to insincerely say something horrifically racist to the face of a black person that had he been sincere, it would have been absolutely horrifying, but that's the point - he's absolutely not sincere. That's why it's absolutely hilarious and not racist because everybody knows Louis CK doesn't actually mean that at all.

Intent and context means a lot. When you take that context away, (other things said in that conversation, who is saying it, your knowledge about what they believe, previous conversations that might be references, etc.), the words can appear to be extremely racist, even when they're not.

How do I react when someone jokes about something that involves race? It completely depends on the context, and what I interpret the intent of it is. If I'm joking around generally with my friends like the above, and they say something like, "You know why black people smell? So blind people can hate them, too." We're in a situation we're joking, we already have had actual sincere conversations about race, I know he isn't racist, I know he actually believes that's 100% not true. How do I react? If I found the joke funny, I'd laugh because I'm taking it to mean he's making fun of what some racists believe because I know for a fact he doesn't believe that.

My father-in-law is a different story, because I know the guy, I know he's like a 5-6 on the racist scale, so I don't know if he actually believes black people generally stink or not, and generally inclined to believe he actually believes most or all black people smell. At the very least, I'm uneasy. I'm certainly not going to laugh at it. I'd probably show some kind of disapproval at the least. Completely different context because now, and here's the key, that may have been intended as an actual racist statement about black people. Once you go there, that's not funny.

So, if you consider me slightly racist because I make ironic racist statements as jokes, which I mean as mocking towards racists themselves, rock on. But you better be consistent in your outrage when someone exaggerates they're gonna kill someone when they get frustrated over something insignificant as an example. After all, that's playing around with words that are murderous and violent, so they must be a psychopath or homicidal!

Please note, that was sarcasm.

Social Justice Warrior - basically a busy body who spends their time trying very hard to get upset about things and policing people's behaviour in an intrusive manner. It is a little true that social media websites have given rise (perhaps just confidence or a voice) to a certain class of professionally offended moron.

But the thing is, i think @shang is actually racist. "I find all black women disgustingly ugly," is a racist thing to say. No one can pull you up for NOT finding a certain race attractive in all the times you've met their representatives, but to then extrapolate that you definitely must feel the same way about ALL black women is, in my opinion, racist. It is not racist to say that you have never met a black woman you've been attracted to, but that's a different thing to say. You're making a generalisation about an entire race based on a handful of examples.

@lantern53

But seriously, cops are racist.

Yes Black Cops, Asian Cops, Hispanic Cops.

Being a police officer makes you racist.
Because the culture of law enforcements preys on the poor and minority groups.

So if you're told as a rookie "Go to the poor neighbor and patrol the streets"

Eventually you're going to come across desperate, uneducated people FROM ALL BACKGROUNDS.

You'll see gangsters, addicts, thieves, whores, etc.

If you mostly patrol poor black or white or asian or hispanic neighborhoods, you mostly begin to distrust any black or white or asian or hispanic person.

Being a cop eventually makes you distrust everyone who looks a certain way.

Those stereotypes about all black males being scary savage thugs starts to ring true.

I'll wonder if you are the same person who watches a video of a black person misbehaving and say 'all black people are criminals'

you do the very same with cops

you should be ashamed of yourself

but if you'll only see the error of your ways and apologize, we will forgive you

As usual, any sense of nuance is completely lost on you. Things are all black and white in your world, and blacks are all bad. I honestly can't understand how you survive with that mindset.

No, of course the video doesn't tell the whole story, they shut it off so we wouldn't know the whole story. That's the point. Duh.

All cops that beat up non-violent 'suspects' are bad. All cops that shoot unarmed, controlled civilians are bad. All cops that punt people in the head are bad. All cops that steal from victims are bad. All cops that lie or trick people are bad. All cops that hide their criminal activity, or that of other officers, are bad. If all cops do those things, then yes, all cops are bad. Are you now saying that's the case? You should know.

It's incredibly sad to me that so many like you have adopted the 'you're either (100%) with us or your (100%) against us' mindset. That's why anyone not goose stepping along with you must be a 'leftie', a dirty word in your mind. That's going to end up leaving you pretty lonely.

Um...so now you're whining about what being a cop entails?! Sorry, you actually have to do something for that paycheck. Jesus Christ!

Try thinking about what you whine about before writing it publicly...or you could just do what lantern53 does and snidely write a bunch of ridiculous whining BS, insults and lies over and over until everyone knows you're a troll.
Stop wasting our time. ;-)

Yes, I would make a bad cop. I am NOT the kind of person that enjoys forcefully telling others how to be, how to act, where they can be, nor am I the one to put others in jail for 'no victim' crimes or just for non-compliance with my wishes. I'm CERTANLY not the kind of person that supports people 'on my team' that are disgusting racist criminals...but you are.
Not an assumption, you said it clearly. YOU said he could have gone from one neighborhood to another in 15+min, so it's reasonable to 'detain' him. That MUST mean it's reasonable to detain ANY black man within a 15 minute radius (by car, no one told them he didn't have a car). That's just stupidly insane...it makes ALL black men in a 30 mile diameter 'suspects'. (which seems to be how you see them).
No, YOU throw the race card out every time your ass itches, and I think you must have a rash because it's constant! I throw it right back at you, and you cry foul.
YOU care what color people are, you've made that QUITE clear.

EDIT: It's hilarious that you follow your complaint about someone 'throwing out the race(ism) card" and follow instantly with something racist. You could just as easily say that calls for criminal investigation feature men, the young, the poor, or (my favorite) the religious (check your statistics, nearly 100% of cons consider themselves 'religious', so the next time you have a call, just go to the nearest church and start 'investigating' whomever you find there).

Yes, clearly 'young African Americans' are most often the 'suspects', that does not mean they are most often the perps however.
If you get a call to look for a male black, about a 'crime' that may have happened some time ago, it's rather pointless period. There's no way in hell you could find the right person with that description unless there's still one male black AT THE SCENE of the crime you are investigating, and even then that person could easily be a witness. "male black" is not enough description to make it OK for cops to accost citizens. PERIOD. Just as "male white" would not be.
I would say YOU seem far more clueless than I. You have a myopic viewpoint where cops are ALWAYS in the right, citizens are ALWAYS in the wrong, and black people are ALWAYS suspect and dangerous.
Try to be a little logical at all, and less ridiculous please.

Proof that all black comedians are forced into drag as Dave Chappelle said after he returned from his self exile.

Why did we make penicillin? Because we all have unlimited happiness and no sickness or death? Or because of my argument? We learn such happiness through successes such as medicine. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just the way life is. We see colors by the contrasts.

Also, you argue that you are "pretty sure Harris is aware" which means "I am just bullshitting and have nothing more to add." Does he? He hates Christianity so much I doubt it; also, and would it matter? I mean all blacks, I mean Christians, are alike. When we hate all blacks, I mean Christians, the exceptions don't matter. They all like fried chicken, have big lips and have little education.

I have to point this distinction out because Harris hunts ALL Christians with his argument, and so spreads out the batshit arguments against them as applying to ALL of them.

It's not racist; it's just stupid and nonsensical... unless she thinks that all black people look like zombies I guess.

*isdupe, and we's all black.

Are you seriously suggesting that criticising the "bling" culture of rap is racist?

There's a massive difference between criticising people for their behaviours and criticising them for their race. I don't like the champagne/rims/gold jewellery bollocks either, does that make me racist?

If anything, it's racist to assume that all black people subscribe to the worst elements of hip-hop just because they're black.

Regarding the song itself: great message, lousy execution.