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You Can't Have My Wifi

JustSaying says...

Funny story, out of my own stupidity I made my WIFI vulnerable and somebody used my connection without my knowledge to download some obscure swedish war movie. A few weeks later I get mail from a bunch of lawyers and ended up paying 300 bucks for that shit.
You want my WIFI password? No, but if it's a real emergency you could use my computer while I watch.
Not an emergency? You can always go home if you're bored by me.

There's a reason that shit is password protected. I'll lend you ten bucks but I won't tell you my credit card's PIN. I'll give you a lift but I won't give you my car.

You Can't Have My Wifi

Sagemind says...

OMG - Share the WIFI already - It's not sharing something personal - It's like letting someone hear your music or watch your TV while they are over. This is so messed up .
If it bothers you that much, change your password once in a while.

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Last Week Tonight: Encryption

entr0py says...

You're right, the FBI did reset the iCloud backup password on the phone, which Apple claimed was the easiest way to get at the data without any new software needing to be written. Who knows if they're being honest, but the FBI now says that wouldn't have worked anyway.

http://www.computerworld.com/article/3044025/apple-ios/terrorist-changed-icloud-password-disabled-auto-backups-on-his-iphone.html

Chaucer said:

I'm pretty sure the FBI fucked up on this one and messed with the phone before giving it to Apple. As mentioned in the piece, Apple can give the FBI the iCloud backup data. From what I understand, the FBI started to mess with the phone and Apple can no longer force the backup of the phone.

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noims says...

Good to see password technology has improved significantly. His password was 1234 (coincidentally typed at 1:23), whereas the most popular password 20 years later is all the way up to 123456.

That's, like, over a hundred times better, right?

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RedSky says...

@00Scud00

Apple has said it is planning to build a future firmware that cannot be flashed as the FBI has asked for in this case on an older iOS iPhone 5C (removing the time lock on password fails). That will likely be the more important legal case when it comes up - must a firmware be built to be potentially unlockable by officials to facilitate law enforcement.

From what I understand, serious terrorist organisations simply avoid using technology directly with their leaders (e.g. Osama avoided phone and email). Anyway as I said, this debate is not about that. It's about pressuring Apple to revert back to not having strong encryption enabled by default.

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ChaosEngine says...

The hilarious thing is that all of this is completely unnecessary.

Firstly, it's of questionable value anyway. I have seen little evidence that Farook wasn't acting pretty much alone. Even if the unlock his phone, they'll probably just find he likes ISIS on facebook or follows some well known twitter accounts.

But more importantly, all of the data on the phone would have been backed up to iCloud, which Apple does have access to and was willing to turn over to the government.

But then some muppet in the FBI changed the password

Yeah, these are really the kind of geniuses we want deciding how companies should write secure software.

And forget taxes, Apple should use some of their $18 billion profit (for a quarter!!!!) and pay their workers in China a decent wage. Seriously, it works out at just a few percent of their profits.

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Mordhaus says...

Well, I left the company in 2012, so I had to double-check with a friend that still works there. Apparently the situation is that while they can reset the password limit, it will still do the auto-erase if you reach the attempt limit.

So in the case of any iPhone running the latest OS, the data would be non-retrievable. He also told me that they plan to remove the option to reset the password limit completely in the next version, meaning that if you screw up enough times, it is an auto-erase and nothing can be done.

I can only imagine how the support call is going to go the first time they have to tell the customer that.

newtboy said:

I understand that what you say is true, but do they unlock phones with this OS, or specific security, or just older phones that don't have the auto erase feature built in? They've made the case that this is a new thing, brought about by their new attempt to make it impossible for even them to unlock phones in an effort to get around the warrants, knowing they'll sell more phones if those phones can't be 'cracked', even with a warrant. IF that's true, this is a new case and not the same as the phones they 'cracked' in the past.

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eoe says...

@00Scud00, it's annoying because most sites don't tell you what the max size is when you make a password, but I usually try a onepassword-generated one that's huge, and see how much the password-maker complains.

128, though. I suppose I could concatenate some more stuff to it.

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Ralgha says...

Typical "special characters" are boring, and long passphrases are tiresome.

For maximum fun and security, try a passphrase that mixes vocabulary, grammar, character sets, and input methods from multiple languages. It helps if you learn how to touch type in at least one of the other languages.

For example: лщкуhaぺれけるちゃてるьгяглф死

This is a very simple, easy to remember phrase that can be entered manually if necessary in under 10 seconds. I suspect it would be rather resistant to most brute force attacks. (If you're able to make sense of this example passphrase, congratulations!)

Of course, some password storage systems may not be willing or able to accept this sort of creativity, but such is life.



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