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LastWeekTonight w/ John Oliver: Edward Snowden on Passwords

00Scud00 says...

The system we have a work can take passwords up to 128 characters, I joked during the meeting that I was going to use all 128 characters.

HenningKO said:

don't most passwords also have a character cap as well? 6-16 I usually run into...

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LastWeekTonight w/ John Oliver: Edward Snowden on Passwords

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LastWeekTonight w/ John Oliver: Edward Snowden on Passwords

radx says...

Curse phrases and insults in local dialects work quite well in this regard, at least for now.

In our case, they are sufficiently different from any major language to not be mere permutations of known words. Can't extract/derive regional insults in Eastphalian from any dictionary.

Diceware works as well, if you only need to remember 2-3 passphrases (for your Password Safe or whatever).

LastWeekTonight w/ John Oliver: Edward Snowden on Passwords

How they censor Womens Sport Events on Iranian TV

Truckchase says...

Damn you for making me log in to upvote your comment. I almost forgot my password. It's "password".

Drachen_Jager said:

I can't believe Americans are upset over this. (whether this is fake or not)

The irony. Of all western democracies, the U.S. is the MOST like the countries they fear and despise. Censorship, extreme religious views. The idea that law should be based on a holy book. It's a long list, but you get the idea.

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modulous says...

I love ST; Ice-T is awesome - this is one of the greatest combinations of good things I've encountered in 2015. It's like the teens of the eighties have replaced Pepsi cravings with password reset demands as they have become adults of the '10s

Someone stole naked pictures of me. This is what I did about

Digitalfiend says...

I think there is a lot of truth behind this and, in my opinion, Ms Holten does share in some of the responsibility for at least the existence of these pictures. Being a young and likely naïve person without much relationship experience (which can apply to both men and women), she allowed her boyfriend to take those intimate pictures. Loss of private information is not a new occurrence and there have been some big stories about data theft or loss in the past decade or so. Ms Holten must have realized that these intimate pictures might still have ended up on the internet even if her boyfriend hadn't posted them: phones get lost or stolen all the time; personal computers and cloud storage services are not always secure, etc. Ms Holten seems like an intelligent woman, so I think one can assume that she was at least aware of the risks and, at the time, accepted them.

If Ms Holten's boyfriend had taken the pictures without her knowledge and then released them to the internet, she would clearly, at least in my opinion, have zero responsibility. That is not the case though. She willingly allowed the creation of the original erotic pictures and accepted the risks associated with their existence. That does not make her any less of a victim, but she is partly responsible for the existence of the pictures; if the pictures didn't exist, her boyfriend couldn't have put them on the internet and she wouldn't be subject to the ridicule she is receiving now.

A good example is sharing your banking username and password with someone. This is intimate information that you might only ever share with someone that you trust completely. Even so, many banks are very clear that this is a violation of their terms and conditions and can result in you being held responsible for any monetary losses incurred from unauthorized use. Another example: Enterprise administrators are constantly admonishing users for writing down their network credentials and leaving them lying around. While someone shouldn't use your credentials without your consent, that doesn't mean they won't and therefore you have the responsibility to protect that information. To me this is a demonstration of common sense: don't expose information that you can't afford to lose control of. With that said, Ms Holten's boyfriend absolutely committed a crime and should be punished. Furthermore, it's likely that many of the unsolicited emails that she received overstepped the line between opinion and harassment. I have no argument with that.

Lastly, releasing nude images of herself in order to regain control of her life is admirable and shows courage, but it's naïve to assume that it will shame or impact, in any way, the lives of her harassers; the media headlines about her "getting revenge" are laughable and nonsensical. Ultimately, the new nude pictures probably just gives her harassers more material to enjoy. Still, if it helps her move on, power to her. After all, it is her choice. I'm curious if Ms Holten will post a follow-up about the response to her new images.

SDGundamX said:

However, in terms of responsibility of people for putting themselves in the position to be victimized, there is a huge range of possibilities--but often this range of possibilities isn't examined for fear of someone shouting "Blaming the victim!"

Someone stole naked pictures of me. This is what I did about

Digitalfiend says...

We are assuming her account was hacked but there is very little information from Ms. Holten about exactly where these pictures came from. Some of her posts about the source of the pics states that the pictures were released without her permission while other posts state they were stolen. Did her boyfriend at the time take the pictures with his camera/phone or did she? I think it is more likely that her boyfriend took the pictures, with Ms. Holten's permission, and uploaded them without any hacking being involved. In that case, the analogy doesn't hold up. It does sound better for the media to say she was hacked and it generates more sympathy for her as a victim, but I don't buy it. I just don't believe that every ex-boyfriend is somehow a hacker; sharing your password with someone and having them steal your information does not mean that you were hacked.

draak13 said:

Actually, @ChaosEngine's comparison to online banking is exactly analogous to this situation. Her pics were hacked from her account.

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bareboards2 says...

Yeah, well, I completely disagree.

As I said, cloud password protection is an immateriality.

This video is about her being violently attacked psychologically.

Of course you can talk about what you want to talk about.

I hope you can hear me that is extremely painful for a woman to read about passwords when the topic is women being psychologically attacked by a certain type of man.

I'm bowing out now. I made my point.

Yeah. You are one of the good guys. I know. Honestly.

SDGundamX said:

@bareboards2

Oh, I totally get what you are saying. You've seen my comments in other threads. You know I think there are definitely social issues with how women are both perceived and treated in real life and portrayed in media. Yeah, absolutely, we can look at this story from the perspective of "men behaving badly" because they have the power and they can. And they certainly did. Totally agree with you that it is misogynistic behavior and that we can use the story as an example highlighting social problems and showcasing how one woman tried to turn the tables.

But that's only one perspective to view the story from. We can also view the story as a cautionary tale about Internet safety in the 21st century and comment on how the victim in this case actively (albeit completely unintentionally) contributed to her own victimization. And that's another valid perspective. Personally, I don't see them in conflict, nor do I see the need to shout down one perspective in favor of the other. I could see someone coming along and trying to use the 2nd perspective to negate the 1st (i.e. something along the lines of "she got what she deserved because she behaved like a slut") but ironically a comment like that would only validate the 1st perspective even further.

Someone stole naked pictures of me. This is what I did about

SDGundamX says...

No, but they should accept in this day and age that a ton of douches might snap secret pics of them (potenially upskirt shots when the girls are going up an escalator or something), fap to said pics, then upload the pics for others to potentially fap to. Not saying that's right, but it's a possibility that anyone wearing a mini-skirt would be foolish to ignore.

It's a digital world now. As @Jerykk was pointing out, the best way to avoid naked pics of yourself showing up on the Net is not to take naked pics of yourself (and even then some scumbag might install a hidden camera in a changing room or shower and you wind up on there anyway). From jilted ex-lovers to NSA hoovering data to security breaches/password leaks that seem to be making headlines every day, the odds of a naked pic of yourself being made public against your will (whether you're male or female) are exponentially higher these days. I think anyone who takes naked pics of themselves and doesn't expect them to show up online at some point (could be decades from now) is being a bit naive, especially if they are digital pics,

ChaosEngine said:

Yeah, like all those women wearing short skirts, amirite? I mean, they basically have to accept that they might get raped. It's just a matter of common sense.

Someone stole naked pictures of me. This is what I did about

sixshot says...

Touchy subject. Can't really say or comment about the issue. But given that most incidents have a reactive counter-measures, there is also a pro-active method to ensuring that such sensitive photos aren't somehow leaked.

People take for granted the ability to store the photos that they've taken in the cloud. This is convenience that a lot of people like, myself included. However, by storing a digital photo onto the cloud, two things happen: the photo is there "forever" and the photo can be stolen, nearly irregardless of security.

As far as security, the first and only line of defense is the password. Unfortunately we live in a day and age where password won't work no matter what you use -- complex, generated, correcthorsebattery (or whatever it was), and what else there is. Given time, the password will be cracked and the account compromised. We, as human beings, prefer convenience and are willing to give up security in order to make it easier for us to remember the billions of accounts that we have laying around -- Twitter, Google, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat. Having that one-password-fits-all kind of system, the line of defense is very thin and can break easily.

The pro-active method for intimate photos is to simply not store them onto the cloud. Instead, back them up into cold storage. Put it onto a backup drive and unplug it when it's not in use. It'll be inconvenient for many. But in most cases, it'll make it very difficult for anyone to steal those photos that some treasure so much. Once the photos are backed up, delete them off the device.

So yeah, most people would say to not take the photo in the first place. Unfortunately for me, I'm one who would say that too. Dammit...

It's unfortunate for anyone whose intimate photos are stolen. I know these victims must remain vigilant and strong to fend off the morons who make stupid comments about it. But the mind can only take so much verbal abuse. The sad thing about it all is that it doesn't matter whose at fault or who is to blame. Everyone loses.

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