Not going to ban you for your opinion. But saying a veteran should have been kia is pretty goddamn low. You are, as all the dumbass motherfuckers on the interweb who have been calling him a traitor are, referring to the fact that he broke during his POW incarceration.

Here is a brief excerpt of the new techniques that came out right around the time he was captured. Techniques that were so insidious that the military had to REWRITE the code regarding breaking under torture.

"Some were physically tortured, some of them succumbed to the pain and broke, some did not, but there was also a new technique employed, and it took time.

Put into a dark box, not large enough to even stretch out, it is called sensory deprivation, and along with other enhancements, it turns a person insane, malleable, and open to the most ridiculous suggestions. like confessing to the war crime of being ordered to bomb hospitals and orphanages, and doing so.

Some of those who broke under this new kind of interrogation feared to be repatriated, thinking they would be tried for collaboration upon their return. American psychologists and psychiatrists, after interviewing some of these ex-POW’s, determined that, given enough time, anyone, if not everyone, could be broken.

John McCain made them start all over on him a number of times, until his Vietnamese interrogators finally gave up, and threw him into a miserable cell, and not back into his horribly, miserable dark box. His conduct, during his interrogation period, and thereafter, was nothing short of heroic."

Now, if you ever go through enhanced interrogation techniques, please feel free to report back to us how you managed not to break or suffer mental damage from them. Until that time, I find your opinion to be ill informed and lacking weight.

EDIT: Before you go saying I am a fanboy, I didn't care for him as a senator or presidential candidate. He was gullible enough to get sucked into the Keating Five mess and I didn't feel he would be a good president, so I voted democrat in 2008, even though I generally vote republican. I can still recognize him as a war hero and for his service though. The man was not a traitor.

Traitor McCain
Should have been KIA not DOA.
Defending Obama is the least of Conservative gripes.

Before you all get pissy and go ape shit and try banning me , piss off. All entitled to opinion.

At least I'm fair and balanced I said about the same about Ted Kennedy passing.

I notice they edit out the part when it goes out into the parking lot and steals the lead engineer's new Kia.

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I thought he was confused because he was prepared to talk about Captain America and/or Robocop, which he was fairly sure played in the super bowl (and reportedly right before the interview), but Samuel acted like there was NO commercial, and was already pissed off about it instantly, making the host second guess himself/his staff. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how it looked to me.
I certainly didn't hear a pause there. It was more like..."I tell you what, (small pause), your working for marvel that super bowl commercial, did you get a lot of reaction to that superb owl commercial?
If he had said "I tell you what, your working for Kia that super bowl commercial, did you get a lot of reaction to that super bowl commercial?" I would be right there with those claiming he made a mistake. Since Samuel is in 2 Marvel movies, you might think he would have asked "Was I in a super bowl commercial?" instead of wrongly and angrily implying he was in NO super bowl commercial. (True, he did ask "what super bowl commercial?" and the host failed to answer, but Samuel also cut him off the rest of the interview so perhaps he was going to answer but didn't want to interrupt the already angry guest, or perhaps he's just a horrible interviewer).
(BTW, I've never seen this host, I don't mean to defend him if he IS a known racist, or if he admits it was a case of mistaken identity. I have not heard of either of these so far.)
I'm still sticking with my contention that Samuel made the mistake here unless the host admits he didn't know his guest, because that's how it looks to me, clearly.

...and wow, how did I not notice him saying "What Super bowl commercial?" with ROBOCOP glowing behind him?!? I guess Samuel forgot why he was there completely. BWAAAHAAAHAAA!

EDIT:I'm wondering, did Samuel maybe hear "...Working for CAR (muffled), the super bowl commercial..."? That would explain why he thought the question was about Kia. Hmmmm. That would explain a lot.

I dunno. He did say Marvel commercial and Marvel had nothing to do with the KIA ad, but at the same time he himself appears confused when Jackson takes offense. I think maybe he did have the two things mixed up in his head.

Good on both of them for making a routine interview far more entertaining.

EDIT: Nevermind, listening to it again, he clearly is talking about two different things--basically listing the things Jackson has done recently. His exact quote is:

I'll tell you what, you're working for Marvel, (pause) the Superbowl commercial--did you get a lot of reaction to that Superbowl commerical?

Do you really believe that the "commercial" the interviewer was talking about was a movie trailer for Captain America 2? Nobody calls movie trailers commercials. He was obviously referring to the Kia ad where Fishburne played Morpheus again. If the interviewer had meant the CA2 trailer, he would have said so instead of admitting that he got Fishburne and Jackson confused.

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>> ^spoco2:

Wow, those are some seriously poorly 'busted' myths.
Ride height. Seems that 11 is ludicrously low, and 16cm is still really low
Fuel Consumption. My god, she's actually trying to suggest those figures are reasonable? A Jeep Wrangler uses half that, a Ford Focus uses 6.2L/100km city, a Prius uses 3.9. My bloody people mover, an 8 seater Kia Carnival, uses 9.5.... that's an 8 seater vehicle using less than HALF the petrol this does. 22Litres per 100km is the same as a Hummer H1. It's just brainless to try to suggest this thing is not anything but ridiculously thirsty.
The car was made for everyday life? Erm... Um... She gives no evidence at all to counter that one
Not much room: 110 Litre boot hey? Tiny little hatchbacks have 3 TIMES that boot space.

Really, what a stupid video.
If the point is to have an (apparently) attractive woman draping herself over a car, just have that.
If you are going to pretend to have 'information' with your scantily clad woman, make is actual information. Even just a run down of the specs and capabilities of the car would have been better. Trying to suggest that this car is anything but a ridiculously overpowered, impractical beast for those who want to show off is missing the point of what it is.


That video was many things, but poorly busted isn't one of them.

Wow, those are some seriously poorly 'busted' myths.

* Ride height. Seems that 11 is ludicrously low, and 16cm is still really low
* Fuel Consumption. My god, she's actually trying to suggest those figures are reasonable? A Jeep Wrangler uses half that, a Ford Focus uses 6.2L/100km city, a Prius uses 3.9. My bloody people mover, an 8 seater Kia Carnival, uses 9.5.... that's an 8 seater vehicle using less than HALF the petrol this does. 22Litres per 100km is the same as a Hummer H1. It's just brainless to try to suggest this thing is not anything but ridiculously thirsty.
* The car was made for everyday life? Erm... Um... She gives no evidence at all to counter that one
* Not much room: 110 Litre boot hey? Tiny little hatchbacks have 3 TIMES that boot space.


Really, what a stupid video.

If the point is to have an (apparently) attractive woman draping herself over a car, just have that.

If you are going to pretend to have 'information' with your scantily clad woman, make is actual information. Even just a run down of the specs and capabilities of the car would have been better. Trying to suggest that this car is anything but a ridiculously overpowered, impractical beast for those who want to show off is missing the point of what it is.

>> ^PCGuy123:

>> ^syncron:
Couldn't she just remove the key to kill the engine?

(beaten by snoozedoctor)
No, this model of Kia Sorento had a proximity key, so she could start the car by just having the key fob on her person. I guess there is no way to turn off the car while it's in gear.
I'm finding inconsistent news articles on this story: one said the police don't know why the car finally stopped, while another article indicates the driver followed a troopers advice and lifted up the accelerator pedal while pressing on the brake, which made the car stop. But another article claimed the brakes were burned out already. The driver also put the car in neutral but that had no effect.
Kia Motors responded this was an isolated incident. I'm suspicious that Kia could do a thorough test on this in less than a day.


Just FYI, I believe you can turn off the car in Keyless ignition systems by holding in the button for x-seconds. Just knowledge that might help if this happens to anyone else.

>> ^ReverendTed:

>> ^ForgedReality:
I must say, however, that if that was indeed a woman driver, she's breaking every single stereotype here.I think she's defying some of them. While she was successful in avoiding an accident, time may tell whether this was all her fault in the first place. (Also, yeah..."brake".)


So you're saying you think she might have been at fault for the accelerator getting stuck? These days, everything is electronically controlled, and things can happen. Plus, she was driving a Kia.

>> ^syncron:

Hello class action suit.
>> ^PCGuy123:
>> ^syncron:
Couldn't she just remove the key to kill the engine?

No, this model of Kia Sorento had a proximity key, so she could start the car by just having the key fob on her person. I guess there is no way to turn off the car while it's in gear.
I'm finding inconsistent news articles on this story: one said the police don't know why the car finally stopped, while another article indicates the driver followed a troopers advice and lifted up the accelerator pedal while pressing on the brake, which made the car stop. But another article claimed the brakes were burned out already. The driver also put the car in neutral but that had no effect.
Kia Motors responded this was an isolated incident. I'm suspicious that Kia could do a thorough test on this in less than a day.



You could be onto something: I wonder if all electric ignition cars need some kind of emergency cut-off switch installed, in case of situations like this one with the Kia Sorento?

I have electric ignition on my 2012 Toyota, need to check to see if there is any kind of override...

EDIT: on my keyless starter I have to press and hold the starter button for 3 seconds, which should cut the engine off. But that feature may not be the same for other keyless starter systems.

Apparently the NHTSA has proposed standardizing keyless ignition systems in an effort to help reduce accidents related to these systems, per this article: http://www.robertreeveslaw.com/blog/feds-propose-standardization-of-keyless-ignition-systems

From the article:
"The agency also wants to specify the amount of time necessary to push the control to stop the engine. A driver should be able to stop the car immediately in an emergency without having to wait too long to hold the ignition control in order to do so. Keyless ignition control systems have been linked partly to the sudden unintended acceleration crisis at Toyota. In August 2009, a Lexus being driven by an off-duty California Highway Patrol officer went out of control accelerated to excessive speeds and crashed. All 4 occupants of the car were killed instantly. In the Lexus that was involved in the accident, the driver needed to hold the keyless control for as long as 3 seconds in order to cut the engine. In 2007, there was a similar accident involving a Honda Accord. The driver wanted to switch off the engine in an emergency using the keyless ignition, but could not do so."